Message from @chuckayy

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2019-08-07 17:54:32 UTC  

no i don't but they could exist

2019-08-07 17:54:37 UTC  

theres no way of knowing

2019-08-07 17:55:02 UTC  

I can. Because a metaphysical forces already exists and the cosmological arguments also include metaphysical forces.

2019-08-07 17:55:07 UTC  

That's why I am an atheist.

2019-08-07 17:55:09 UTC  

do they?

2019-08-07 17:55:16 UTC  

Yeah. For example LCA.

2019-08-07 17:55:22 UTC  

If you subscribe to PSR

2019-08-07 17:55:33 UTC  

'Necessary force or necessary being'.

2019-08-07 17:55:40 UTC  

no abbreviation plz

2019-08-07 17:55:49 UTC  

Leibniz Cosmological Argument

2019-08-07 17:55:57 UTC  

whos trolling

2019-08-07 17:55:57 UTC  

Principle of Sufficient Reasoning

2019-08-07 17:56:07 UTC  

Those two

2019-08-07 17:56:30 UTC  

thats non sequitur though

2019-08-07 17:56:38 UTC  

Vaati

2019-08-07 17:57:09 UTC  

I was not trolling!

2019-08-07 17:57:18 UTC  

@Deleted User you are an obvious troll

2019-08-07 17:57:19 UTC  

I am telling it like it is!

2019-08-07 17:57:21 UTC  

Omg why is he saying metaphysics again

2019-08-07 17:57:31 UTC  

@GoldenGail3 THE FUCK DID YOU SAY TO ME YOU LITTLE SHIT?!

2019-08-07 17:57:41 UTC  

ur schtick is pretty annoying i have to say

2019-08-07 17:57:49 UTC  

^

2019-08-07 17:58:00 UTC  

I cri

2019-08-07 17:58:25 UTC  

@Missy Stop crying about metaphysics. It's legit man. You don't need to be empirical to know things

2019-08-07 18:00:49 UTC  

You just keep saying it

2019-08-07 18:01:04 UTC  

But you've demonstrated you haven't actually researched thoroughly any of this

2019-08-07 18:01:44 UTC  

You linked the first article that comes up on Google after searching with metaphysics

2019-08-07 18:01:54 UTC  

Because I went and checked lmfao

2019-08-07 18:01:59 UTC  

Wtf you were asking about their metaphysical laws

2019-08-07 18:02:09 UTC  

So I linked you it

2019-08-07 18:02:18 UTC  

I can't summarize it in one post

2019-08-07 18:04:16 UTC  

theories*

2019-08-07 18:06:03 UTC  

@chuckayy Established theories. Classical theism is built off them two

2019-08-07 18:12:15 UTC  

we're talking about *what is possible* and if the existence of god is *possible*, so this is irrelevant. we're talking from the true perspective that you don't know anything except for what you are sensing and thinking at the moment. yes the laws of physics are *almost certainly in line with reality in one way in another*, but you can't know for certain.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523834972126052352/608724094975868970/unknown.png

2019-08-07 18:14:32 UTC  

Also just to make it clear, I'm not really *open* for say of the idea of a god existing but it is undeniably possible, but there is no rational reason to believe in god just like there is no rational reason for me to believe that there's a glowing hippo fairy standing on my back.

2019-08-07 18:17:35 UTC  

An established theories are not laws

2019-08-07 18:17:46 UTC  

Let's not be unintelligent pricks

2019-08-07 18:37:37 UTC  

LIKE THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION

2019-08-07 18:40:48 UTC  

^ Theory of evolution is proven. To argue against that is stupid.

@waiting for silksong Do you think moral facts exist? You're limiting yourself to empirical evidence, is there anyway that you can argue against that the laws of physics are not in line with reality? Saying there is a possibility without reasoning is stupid.

Again, where is the reasoning for this, if metaphysical forces are actually evident in reality?

2019-08-07 18:42:46 UTC  

While science deals with specific situations, metaphysics deals with general matters. For example, whilst a scientist talks about the laws of nature, a metaphysicist will study what the characteristics are to make that statement to qualify as a law.

2019-08-07 18:45:13 UTC  

Well I've never heard of the law of evolution. I've heard of the law of gravity, but evolution is still just a theory