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2019-09-19 01:26:27 UTC  

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2019-09-19 05:16:36 UTC  

Islam has no place in the west

2019-09-19 10:57:28 UTC  

I feel that too

2019-09-19 12:56:13 UTC  

Ok lets start a fire

2019-09-19 12:56:21 UTC  

**god exists**

2019-09-19 13:12:13 UTC  

Now meet your burden of proof. @kaf

2019-09-19 14:16:45 UTC  
2019-09-19 14:16:49 UTC  

whoops

2019-09-19 14:16:54 UTC  
2019-09-19 15:58:13 UTC  

@kaf You made a positive claim. This now must be tested, so you need to provide an argument.

2019-09-19 16:58:22 UTC  

That is a minor proof but we all know God exists all around us so denying existences is no different from Denying God.

2019-09-19 17:26:47 UTC  

But like

2019-09-19 17:27:03 UTC  

Evidence though

2019-09-19 17:37:52 UTC  

@!GoldenKingship! Wrong. Where is your argument?

2019-09-19 17:38:05 UTC  

Where is he around us?

2019-09-19 18:42:52 UTC  

Everywhere you go is a result of his actions

2019-09-19 18:43:40 UTC  

He enacted the first move of the universe and from there it had caused what we know as the "Big Bang" begining of time space and physics.

2019-09-19 18:43:55 UTC  

Everything we know today is a result of God.

2019-09-19 18:44:52 UTC  

@!GoldenKingship! Prove that.

2019-09-19 18:45:07 UTC  

Ok i will, prepare to get debunked athiest.

2019-09-19 18:45:15 UTC  

Go ahead and try.

2019-09-19 18:46:36 UTC  

Me- "So lets go over one reason or proof of God existence, We all know that motion in the what we call universe had to have been started by another motion of action.
This action for say is done by a mover, this mover enacts a force onto another object which then moves.
So if you go back to the first mover. We know that it had to of been put in motion by no other than; and everyone knows this to be God."

2019-09-19 18:46:43 UTC  

This is what i said like last week.

2019-09-19 18:47:27 UTC  

No that's the incorrect definition of motion.

2019-09-19 18:47:41 UTC  

Anient science proves it

2019-09-19 18:47:57 UTC  

Like I said before.

Motion is relative, things are movig relative to other things that are moving relative to them.

2019-09-19 18:48:02 UTC  

This is not ancient science.

2019-09-19 18:48:19 UTC  

It is Aristotelian metaphysics which is false, since we have a better understanding of physics.

2019-09-19 18:48:20 UTC  

Things were never infinetley in motion to begin with.

2019-09-19 18:48:27 UTC  

Metaphysics follows physics.

2019-09-19 18:48:30 UTC  

Hence the 'meta'.

2019-09-19 18:48:41 UTC  

You can't not have somthing move and another not move.

2019-09-19 18:49:05 UTC  

You are denying the fact that in our universe there is a begining and an end.

2019-09-19 18:49:08 UTC  

An unmoved mover does not equal God as well.

2019-09-19 18:49:14 UTC  

No b-theory of time.

2019-09-19 18:49:20 UTC  

"Began to exist" is incoherent.

2019-09-19 18:49:38 UTC  

In the begining chaos was the lack of motion, and in the end there is nothing but frozen cosmo.

2019-09-19 18:49:43 UTC  

Nope.

2019-09-19 18:50:11 UTC  

You say there is no such thing as a beging because your claiming its all infinitley relative without the involvement of God even begining it all?

2019-09-19 18:50:16 UTC  

You are using Aquinas' first way, yes?

2019-09-19 18:50:41 UTC  

No I'm claiming 'began to exist' is incoherent according to b-theory of time.