But Sharia

is completely incompatible with a civilized nation

^

But I think we shouldn't completely marginalise the entirety of Islam.

There are systemic problematic views in Islam.

Yes, we should.

Who we shouldn't marginalise are the vast amounts of moderate muslims who live peacefully.

But that doesn't mean that we should ignore the problematic nature of their religion.

Definitely,

it's as much a warrior cult as it is a religion

GG @qwasi, you just advanced to level 2!

Precisely.

I am just here to say how we shouldn't necessarily mix Islam Practicers and their religion as the same entity.

Because religion is really a blanket term.

the substance you receive and what you believe in, your way of thought, is influenced on where you live, and your surrounding places of knowledge.

That goes for politics in general.

But these ideas, the religion itself is what Islam is.

Even moderate practitioners are exposed to dangerous ideas.

Because Islam **includes** them.

Surely they're desensitised in it, but do they truly practice and believe it in entirety?

Muslims don't really give a shit about any secular idea of organizing society. A huge portion of them want society to be governed by Sharia, and that is unacceptable

I've heard that you truly need to read the Qur'an in Arabic to understand it.

Because the english translations can be dodgy.

I agree that a relatively small portion of Muslims are actively radical and practice terrorism and whatnot.

That could also be a factor of the high rate of radicalists in the faith.

But these ideas come from Islam and not from that small percentage of people who actually bomb themselves.

And so they also reach moderates.

There is absolutely no Muslim out there who doesn't know about Sharia for example.

Death for apostates. Nuff said

Stoning for adultery

Yeah, things like that.

Honor killing.

gtfo of here with that shit

prevalent in most religions though,

?

When was the last time in modern times you saw a Christian family stone their child to death?

we can't say that all very radical ideologies solely exist in Islam

Stone for adultery versus getting raped in divorce court

which is worse

your wife can cheat on you, divorce you, and end up with more of your shit than you

I have a friend in Amsterdam.