Message from @Throttles

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2019-11-14 19:48:58 UTC  

We live in a public world*.

2019-11-14 19:49:03 UTC  

Correct philosophical language.

2019-11-14 19:49:29 UTC  

This comes from Wittgenstein's private language.

2019-11-14 19:49:37 UTC  

Do you not think that humans existing with different physical characteristics have a shared destiny?

2019-11-14 19:49:39 UTC  

I believe we came from apes

2019-11-14 19:50:09 UTC  

P1) Language can only be meaningful if we live in a shared, public world
P2) Language is meaningful
C) Therefore, we live in a shared, public world

2019-11-14 19:50:11 UTC  

Then apes ate shrooms,dmt and other drug substance that improves their mind

2019-11-14 19:50:31 UTC  

the joe rogan model

2019-11-14 19:50:35 UTC  

Ty hha

2019-11-14 19:51:01 UTC  

@!GoldenKingship! So can you provide an argument for God or no.

2019-11-14 19:51:10 UTC  

Ah yes so you agree that because we live in a shared "Public World" that perhaps divinity also is connected?

2019-11-14 19:51:19 UTC  

No.

2019-11-14 19:51:28 UTC  

Wittgenstein was against transcedental causes.

2019-11-14 19:52:07 UTC  

If i provide you an argument you would simply justify that it is not viable simply on the basis that you are a dualist so how so am i able to convince you if your believe so firmly on that position.

2019-11-14 19:52:13 UTC  

This is because he thought that language is used to describe state of affairs in the actual world, it does not describe anything beyond the world's state of affairs.

2019-11-14 19:52:14 UTC  

GG @Throttles, you just advanced to level 8!

2019-11-14 19:52:23 UTC  

@Throttles, how did Aquinas' five ways go again?

2019-11-14 19:52:48 UTC  

@!GoldenKingship! Uh no...? You can provide an argument which doesn't have to do anything with dualism.

2019-11-14 19:54:03 UTC  

@Vlad I only remember his first way and the fifth way, first is argument from motion and fifth way is telelogical argument. The others are irrelevant, first way is used by Edward Feser since it's the most prominent out of all the five ways.

2019-11-14 19:54:09 UTC  

How can you fully distance yourself from God and prove theism false?

2019-11-14 19:54:36 UTC  

@!GoldenKingship! Failure of arguments for theism and various PoE arguments and Divine Hiddeness.

2019-11-14 19:55:44 UTC  

So the notion that there is no proof for God's existence becomes prevalent in an ungodly society.

2019-11-14 19:56:10 UTC  

There has been Societys based on God though it contradicts your point for God not existing

2019-11-14 19:56:51 UTC  

@!GoldenKingship! Appeal to authority. This is not philosophical anymore either.

2019-11-14 19:57:15 UTC  

"Murder was popular and okay back then therefore it is moral"

2019-11-14 19:57:58 UTC  

So do you believe that our universe is full of disorder?

2019-11-14 19:58:17 UTC  

I do

2019-11-14 19:58:29 UTC  

Theres fcken giant rocks flying everywhere outside the earth

2019-11-14 19:58:35 UTC  

Isnt that chaos

2019-11-14 19:58:41 UTC  

What do you define as disorder.

2019-11-14 19:58:48 UTC  

Haha

2019-11-14 19:58:52 UTC  

Depends on what you characterize as being chaotic, yes.

2019-11-14 19:59:08 UTC  

If so, no because I'm also a determinist.

2019-11-14 19:59:16 UTC  

Chaos! right. I think weve all heard the term "In the begining there was Chaos" Right?

2019-11-14 19:59:33 UTC  

isnt that from dark souls?

2019-11-14 19:59:35 UTC  

I haven't. Where does it come from?

2019-11-14 19:59:39 UTC  

I think golden tryna say that everything is in its natural order?

2019-11-14 19:59:45 UTC  

Golden has no point.

2019-11-14 19:59:59 UTC  

He's saying random things. Throttles is responding with proper terminology.

2019-11-14 20:00:04 UTC  

Then he goes back to saying random things.

2019-11-14 20:00:12 UTC  

It's barely a conversation at this point.