Message from @PohTayToes

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2020-01-02 02:40:41 UTC  

Yes I’ve had the same questions as you. We share common skepticism.

2020-01-02 02:40:44 UTC  

Was about to tl;dr

2020-01-02 02:41:11 UTC  

I probably still should tbh

2020-01-02 02:41:29 UTC  

It’s alright I see your point.

2020-01-02 02:43:27 UTC  

As a christian, I’m very skeptical about teachings and the inerrancy of the Bible. Personally, I’m Pentecostal Evangelical.
I believe in speaking in tongues (popular topic in skepticism) and the rest of the gifts of the spirit. But that doesn’t mean I don’t have any second thoughts.
When I see people speaking in tongues, my first thought is “it’s either seriously genuine, or they’re spitting gibberish from their mouth to make it look like speaking in tongues”

2020-01-02 02:43:59 UTC  

A relatively common reaction in the latter

2020-01-02 02:44:17 UTC  

I was rose in the church, and surrounded with strong conservative, and even in some cases, extreme-right ideals

2020-01-02 02:45:30 UTC  

So I sort of swallowed the morales and beliefs of the Bible and absorbed it into how I act as a person on the daily. I find that the Bible is the Bible, there is no Masons Bible or Catholic Bible or man-made subjective extensions.

2020-01-02 02:45:58 UTC  

That’s what I believe. And frankly, it’s done me well. Despite my person spiritual relationship with God being errored.

2020-01-02 02:47:11 UTC  

Different denominations and faiths teach different behaviors and practically indoctrinate those who participate in their church.

2020-01-02 02:48:56 UTC  

Anyhow, in the end I concur with your skepticism and perception on the Bible.
I wish I held all the answers to respond to it.

2020-01-02 02:49:07 UTC  

So I agree with the one bible belief

2020-01-02 02:49:14 UTC  

But only so far

2020-01-02 02:49:45 UTC  

After all, there's the KJV, NIV, NLV and various translations of the bible

2020-01-02 02:49:45 UTC  

GG @PohTayToes, you just advanced to level 4!

2020-01-02 02:50:25 UTC  

So within these versions there are differences

2020-01-02 02:50:47 UTC  

Largely they're just phrasing or sentence structure

2020-01-02 02:51:00 UTC  

Mhm.

2020-01-02 02:51:31 UTC  

They’re rephrased, sometimes reworded. But I can assure you, the meaning and it’s truth remain the same.

2020-01-02 02:51:36 UTC  

There’s 1 truth.

2020-01-02 02:51:48 UTC  

But certain verses take entirely different meaning based on those. And sometimes the words are restructured into a sentence of a very different meaning as well

2020-01-02 02:51:55 UTC  

You can’t pull your own truth, unless you’re into relativism.

2020-01-02 02:52:09 UTC  

Yes mhm I agree.

2020-01-02 02:52:21 UTC  

See, that's where the issue is as well

2020-01-02 02:52:28 UTC  

We learned about this, this last semester in my Bible class.

2020-01-02 02:52:38 UTC  

Each translation suffers from relativism

2020-01-02 02:52:59 UTC  

It entirely depends on the person who interprets it.

2020-01-02 02:53:10 UTC  

As they're ultimately interpretations of a book that has been rewritten hundreds of times

2020-01-02 02:53:37 UTC  

As well has been through monumental linguistic shifts as well

2020-01-02 02:53:41 UTC  

Unfortunately yes.

2020-01-02 02:54:01 UTC  

I have a Bible from the 70s passed down to me.

2020-01-02 02:54:05 UTC  

Not just within it's original form, but throughout it's popular history as well

2020-01-02 02:54:14 UTC  

the words are totally different than they are today

2020-01-02 02:54:36 UTC  

NIV I know is specifically, continuously updated for better and friendlier understanding

2020-01-02 02:55:01 UTC  

But for the other translations

2020-01-02 02:55:10 UTC  

I can’t answer for them, because I don’t truly know.

2020-01-02 02:55:31 UTC  

So the languages used for the original oratory editions of the Bible changed while being passed along as well

2020-01-02 02:55:41 UTC  

Mhm.

2020-01-02 02:56:25 UTC  

Back in ancient times, Monks had written thousands of copies.
I’m sure plenty of mistakes were made.

2020-01-02 02:56:28 UTC  

And considering it was passed as a spoken tradition for hundreds, if not thousands of years, caused certain interpretations to be made as well

2020-01-02 02:56:57 UTC  

Monks are actually my favourite part of it all