Message from @Sauropithicus
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it's confusing as heck, but yeah.
It makes more sense to just drop the moral part out though.
Ok so you're saying the difference between killing being ok or being not ok is who authorizes it?
A killing is an unprosecuted murder.
ok I think i get what you mean
So you're talking about like the right side of history type stuff?
bc I thought you were talking about a moral distinction
Literally, under the UCMJ, you can be shot by firing squad for rape. But for murder, you just have to justify your actions to your supervisors.
Like authorization is what MAKES killing moral or immoral, I thought that's what you were saying
Ok so that is what you were saying?
yes!
Oh ok!
Well I think the moral distinction lies in the aggression part
a hitman?
And I think the battlefield gets pretty morally gray
No like
Hmmm
If I were to just shoot you that would be murder
But
If you shot at me then I shot you it would not be murder
Because in the first case I was being aggressive
a hitman blows your theory out of the water. That's calm, cold and very calculated.
It also would only be immoral if you happen to be in the wrong jurisdiction
Ok but like that's still aggressive
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we'd have to put any battlefield in the context of whether there is a Just War happening
By aggressive, I mean like they started it, not like its "aggressive"
no more aggressive than a patrol in a congressional war zone.
My bad for not defining terms, hypocrisy is a cold bitch
Ok but in a war zone (assuming combatants on both sides), both sides are equally aggressive and reactionary against one another which is why I say that its morally gray
special ops?
Marines are not always in congressional war zones and they do see fire.
Well my point is that in war when both sides are fighting against one another, both groups are kind of simultaneously "starting it" and "responding"
Like, as soldiers
Not that the nations(governments) involved themselves are equally responsible for starting and responding
How about Jeffrey Dahmer. He was as chill as you could get about the deed.
he's another extreme end.
Ok you didnt hear me a little while ago
Aggressive doesnt mean crazy
by aggressive I just mean "initiating violence"
and by reactionary I just mean "responding to the initiation of violence with violence"
It doesnt matter if they initiated violence in a "cold manner", by aggressive I just mean that they initiated the violence
teens that kill to join gangs?