Message from @Sophie

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2020-03-06 15:02:28 UTC  

Exactly

2020-03-06 15:02:32 UTC  

Exactly what?

2020-03-06 15:02:57 UTC  

Cells aren’t generally self aware

2020-03-06 15:03:16 UTC  

We can debate whether your neurons are, but that’s a whole different discussion

2020-03-06 15:03:36 UTC  

So a cell has essentially programming

2020-03-06 15:03:48 UTC  

Just things it does and reactions to stimuli

2020-03-06 15:03:52 UTC  

They don’t even know that they have to survive. If you were to shoot an artificial machine, would it try to dodge the missile without being programmed to?

2020-03-06 15:03:52 UTC  

GG @Yusa, you just advanced to level 19!

2020-03-06 15:04:09 UTC  

No

2020-03-06 15:04:31 UTC  

That’s why I thought we were starting with the assumption that the cells already know they have to survive

2020-03-06 15:04:35 UTC  

But if you shot a missile at 100,000,000 artificial machines, and one was programmed to

2020-03-06 15:04:36 UTC  

GG @Sophie, you just advanced to level 18!

2020-03-06 15:04:50 UTC  

Then you’d only be left with machines that dodge missiles

2020-03-06 15:05:04 UTC  

Cells don’t “know” anything

2020-03-06 15:05:11 UTC  

Or if it accidentally dodged the missile

2020-03-06 15:05:22 UTC  

Because evolution doesn’t allow programming

2020-03-06 15:05:29 UTC  

Yes it does

2020-03-06 15:05:35 UTC  

That’s what instinct is

2020-03-06 15:05:52 UTC  

No it doesn’t. Programming requires an intelligent programmer

2020-03-06 15:05:52 UTC  

Have you seen planet earth 2?

2020-03-06 15:05:57 UTC  

No it doesn’t

2020-03-06 15:06:06 UTC  

Have you heard of machine learning?

2020-03-06 15:06:25 UTC  

Yeah, I use machine learning

2020-03-06 15:06:28 UTC  

It's not *literal* computer programming, think of that term a bit more abstractly

2020-03-06 15:06:37 UTC  

I literally program the algorithms

2020-03-06 15:07:07 UTC  

Ok, so let’s say you start with a program

2020-03-06 15:07:22 UTC  

And you randomly change that program

2020-03-06 15:07:26 UTC  

Even with machine learning, the program needs a goal. It needs instructions

2020-03-06 15:07:33 UTC  

Yes, a goal

2020-03-06 15:07:41 UTC  

That’s what selective pressure does

2020-03-06 15:07:44 UTC  

It gives it a goal

2020-03-06 15:07:50 UTC  

The goal is to exist

2020-03-06 15:07:53 UTC  

But it has no goal

2020-03-06 15:07:57 UTC  

The goal is to reproduce and continue the species, ultimately

2020-03-06 15:07:59 UTC  

Because anything that fails to exist, doesn’t exist

2020-03-06 15:08:03 UTC  

The cells have no algorithm

2020-03-06 15:08:09 UTC  

Yes they do

2020-03-06 15:08:22 UTC  

They respond to stimuli

2020-03-06 15:08:28 UTC  

That’s an algorithm

2020-03-06 15:08:37 UTC  

You can think of a cell as a series of Boolean operators

2020-03-06 15:08:48 UTC  

*operations