I doubt that

I'm not really mgtow

Just red pill

I wish I could go monk though

@Tyberius D what's up with you I've been listening to you and so far and all you done is bash us because we don't agree with feminist.

I come up with arguments and want a debate

So tell us why do you think we need feminism when they are destroying the family?

Problem with people is they tend to look at things as one side or the other. However, the reality is often a spectrum. I see Feminists and MGTOWs as opposite exterems of sexist folks.

That being said, I don't remember taking much issue with anyone outside of our esteemed Host.

Overall, I do find most of the gents here to be misogynistic. The discussion earlier showed the gents wish to shove the responsibility of pregnancy 95% on the ladies.

The Feminists, Sam in this case, really show poorly when they act like abortion is acceptable under most cases.

Have many issues with both groups, and I think both are about scum of the earth.

ofc you can be mgtow without hating women

mgtow means you arent gynosentric and u wont get married

@Tyberius D look fact is women abuse their power in family courts I seen a lot of good men who want to be fathers get the shaft because the mother wanted it.

A woman can be crazy and still get the kids

The kids should be reward to the parent who is able to financially support the kids if their not able the other parent gets it period. This would lower taxes because it would use less money for welfare thus taxes go down.

@Tyberius D yes I know there are bad men out there but can we at least admit there's bad women who are out of control too?

What part of both sides are complete POSs did you not understand?

Feminism = be treated equally how is that just as bad?

@Tyberius D there is a difference one is just walking away from relationship the other have government power

@Deleted User feminism is not about equal rights

@Deleted User if it was about equal right you would ask to sign the draft and other things

@Tyberius D did you know feminists take money from social security to keep them afloat?

I’d sign up for the draft, it’s a meaningless gesture, and as I mentioned earlier it’s men and the conservative call of people who fight to keep women out of combat duty military service

Meanwhile men wrap themselves in patriotism, and their military service, and the vast majority of men never serve in the military and are riding the coat tails of other people

Some how I’m lesser than you because 60 years ago before either of us existed men fought a war

You are taking credit for something you didn’t participate in at all

And it’s sad

Well I tried to join but the Obama was cutting funds and the only job there was Infantry units

I wanted to be a medic so I can go to medical school

But yeah...

There's no job other then security job in infantry

@Deleted User I'm sorry but you are confused right there males and females can be in active duty combat roles you just need to fit into a criteria

@jeff4121999 expect infantry units

@NobleBeing did you know I absolutely don't give a shit for arguments of which group of scumbags is better than the other?

And women had to fight for the right to serve in submarines

@NobleBeing no they even have a certain criteria to its actually easier for females to join the infantry

@Deleted User hmm wrong women did not fight for their rights burning your bra and being naked is not fighting

@Deleted User not all women did and your forgetimg some males where fighting with you

@jeff4121999 that's why it's bad if you make it easier it makes worse soldiers

@jeff4121999 only 5 percent of women can pass the marine test

@NobleBeing no bcs in the end they still get the same training

And those women are freaks!

Sure, but that’s kind of the point members of the military is less than 1% of the population but you’re going to use that as a reason for why I deserve fewer rights