i grew up around one gender

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and i struggle to get any attraction from the other

I would say that there still has to always be the base genetic component there, but perhaps some societal pressures push people who are already genetically disposed to be gay to have an attraction to those of the same sex?

I think my glass of water analogy I use in regards to nature and nurture would fit this well, actually

Nature, being how big the glass is, and nurture, how much water is poured into the glass. Genetics determine the size of this "glass" (or in our case, the possibility of having a same sex attraction) and perhaps societal circumstances would be how much this glass is filled?

If that is the case, I wouldn't call it a choice, since somebody who has a genetic "chance" to be gay and who then is gay because of further societal pressures can't just choose not to be gay

I mean Shakespeare was definitely Bi (or Bi-Curious) so it can't just be environment by itself

But environment could help to further the gayness

so make people curious can make them more likely to try homosexual things?

It can be a person having more or less X or Y chromosomes making them have an inclination for the same sex, that would the genetic/born being gay part that we also see in animals. It also can be just influenced by the environment, the media, social pressure, etc.

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if your not a XX or a XY you will die before you could born and if you survive you may have high health problems

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I guess I didnt explain it well but is basically "a stretch on the X chromosome likely associated with homosexuality"

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i don't think that the chromosomes change sexual desire that much

i think that hormones play a better role in this case of sexual preference

To me is what makes more sense, since Y and X chromosomes define your sex, how much testosterone or estrogen you are producing and all of that, having a mutation in one of those "makes you gay", if you're a woman with high levels of testosterone you're probably going to have boy-like look, behavior and even the attraction for other woman and vise versa

You just basically said the same thing there, is linked

not really, because some hormones come from the food take by the mother during pregnancy

Is both

so you can developed "normally" but the thing you eat may change your body later , and so your mind

so even chromosomes looses theirs powers over time

And what you think translates the food into genetic info?

is the same, dude

nope some food have hormones on them

even if your are a young adult it can change your body

Yeah but is stronger what you have already in your genes than the food you consume

anyways that's not the point and we both agree that food affects it, so(?

yes

but what about the culture of curiosity ?

it can have a huge impact too about the way we see sexuality

Yeah, of course and that's huge thing and kinda sad because is just putting into peoples heads that they should try when is not something meant to be

but without it can it make people unable to understand each other

i mean curiosity

Sure, without curiosity I don't we'll even be here anymore but in that case is just unnecessary

Our "goal" is to reproduce so that would be counterproductive

i agree if your goal is to reproduce

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Not mine but I think that's why we are, of course not just for that but I guess that's a different talk