Message from @thomas the choo choo tree

Discord ID: 575312627904020501


2019-05-07 13:18:55 UTC  

ok so where were we

2019-05-07 13:19:46 UTC  

we were talking about if the mother has more of a say in abortion

2019-05-07 13:20:10 UTC  

oh yeah

2019-05-07 13:20:39 UTC  

i say yes bc she has a larger role to play in the pregnancy - and she's the one who actually has to give birth

2019-05-07 13:21:15 UTC  

i say no because if the father wants to be apart of the childs life it wouldnt be fair if the mother just stripped him of that ability by having an abortion

2019-05-07 13:21:44 UTC  

i mean if you dont wanna take care of the child and the father does

2019-05-07 13:21:48 UTC  

and hes not abusive or anyhting

2019-05-07 13:21:52 UTC  

just let him take care of it

2019-05-07 13:22:08 UTC  

but that still means you're a mother

2019-05-07 13:22:32 UTC  

like

2019-05-07 13:23:06 UTC  

that goes back to bodily autonomy

2019-05-07 13:24:01 UTC  

it's the woman's body that actually has to be the 'host' of the fetus

2019-05-07 13:24:44 UTC  

if the FATHER wants a baby, then why can't he adopt?

2019-05-07 13:25:06 UTC  

why adopt when your wife/girlfriend has your biological baby

2019-05-07 13:25:29 UTC  

bc she doesn't want to have your biological baby

2019-05-07 13:25:45 UTC  

if she doesnt want to have his biological baby

2019-05-07 13:25:48 UTC  

then dont have unprotected sex

2019-05-07 13:26:12 UTC  

then contraceptives should be made more readily available

2019-05-07 13:26:30 UTC  

idealistically, they should have the whole children conversation before having sex (even if it is protected)

2019-05-07 13:26:48 UTC  

you can literally walk into your local pharmacy and buy condoms and birth control

2019-05-07 13:26:59 UTC  

condom isnt 100%

2019-05-07 13:27:04 UTC  

none are

2019-05-07 13:27:04 UTC  

theres still a chance

2019-05-07 13:27:07 UTC  

^

2019-05-07 13:27:10 UTC  

yeah

2019-05-07 13:27:11 UTC  

a very slim chance

2019-05-07 13:27:20 UTC  

maybe bad luck is just there

2019-05-07 13:27:27 UTC  

bam and you pregnant

2019-05-07 13:27:32 UTC  

you can't put restrictions on unprotected sex tho

2019-05-07 13:27:53 UTC  

i mean it is dumb to have it if you dont want a baby

2019-05-07 13:28:15 UTC  

you shouldnt be allowed to kill a child all because of a slim chance in birth controlfailure

2019-05-07 13:28:57 UTC  

you're not killing it bc birth control failed

2019-05-07 13:29:26 UTC  

you're 'killing' it because you don't want to/are not ready to/can't be a mother yet

2019-05-07 13:29:59 UTC  

and thats why you combine the 'pill' with condoms

2019-05-07 13:30:17 UTC  

if your not ready to be a mother/father then wear a condom

2019-05-07 13:30:28 UTC  

regardless of how low the failure rate is

2019-05-07 13:30:42 UTC  

condoms have what a 98% chance of success

2019-05-07 13:30:48 UTC  

yes i agree that you should

2019-05-07 13:31:16 UTC  

but having unprotected sex doesn't give you less of a choice on whether you want to keep your baby or not

2019-05-07 13:31:44 UTC  

like what if a 16 year old doesn't use contraceptives

2019-05-07 13:32:08 UTC  

adoption