ok so where were we

we were talking about if the mother has more of a say in abortion

oh yeah

i say yes bc she has a larger role to play in the pregnancy - and she's the one who actually has to give birth

i say no because if the father wants to be apart of the childs life it wouldnt be fair if the mother just stripped him of that ability by having an abortion

i mean if you dont wanna take care of the child and the father does

and hes not abusive or anyhting

just let him take care of it

but that still means you're a mother

like

that goes back to bodily autonomy

it's the woman's body that actually has to be the 'host' of the fetus

if the FATHER wants a baby, then why can't he adopt?

why adopt when your wife/girlfriend has your biological baby

bc she doesn't want to have your biological baby

if she doesnt want to have his biological baby

then dont have unprotected sex

then contraceptives should be made more readily available

idealistically, they should have the whole children conversation before having sex (even if it is protected)

you can literally walk into your local pharmacy and buy condoms and birth control

condom isnt 100%

none are

theres still a chance

^

yeah

a very slim chance

maybe bad luck is just there

bam and you pregnant

you can't put restrictions on unprotected sex tho

i mean it is dumb to have it if you dont want a baby

you shouldnt be allowed to kill a child all because of a slim chance in birth controlfailure

you're not killing it bc birth control failed

you're 'killing' it because you don't want to/are not ready to/can't be a mother yet

and thats why you combine the 'pill' with condoms

if your not ready to be a mother/father then wear a condom

regardless of how low the failure rate is

condoms have what a 98% chance of success

yes i agree that you should

but having unprotected sex doesn't give you less of a choice on whether you want to keep your baby or not

like what if a 16 year old doesn't use contraceptives

adoption