Message from @thomas the choo choo tree

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2019-05-07 14:31:55 UTC  

but sperm and egg has potential

2019-05-07 14:32:04 UTC  

Potential, in this context, would be the ability for a human to form if natural processes, beginning with the formation of a zygote, are left unimpeded

2019-05-07 14:32:10 UTC  

they have potential to become zygote

2019-05-07 14:32:13 UTC  

And we're back to square one, smh

2019-05-07 14:32:20 UTC  

they have potential to become potential lmao

2019-05-07 14:32:23 UTC  

yea

2019-05-07 14:32:28 UTC  

ouch that hurt

2019-05-07 14:32:32 UTC  

Ok, but I don't care about the potential to become potential

2019-05-07 14:32:34 UTC  

The potential argument is a continuous regression

2019-05-07 14:32:35 UTC  

so that's still potential, it's just less potential

2019-05-07 14:32:37 UTC  

I only care about potential

2019-05-07 14:32:47 UTC  

but everything has potential

2019-05-07 14:33:04 UTC  

I would consider killing a potential life a regression, komrade, but to each their own

2019-05-07 14:33:17 UTC  

sperm is potential for potential

2019-05-07 14:33:29 UTC  

everything is lol ashna

2019-05-07 14:33:36 UTC  

Okay, what if the zygote impedes on the mother's potential

2019-05-07 14:33:40 UTC  

potential for potential for life = potential for life

2019-05-07 14:33:51 UTC  

As in, the fetus could eventually harm the mother?

2019-05-07 14:34:01 UTC  

Like some sort of pregnancy complication?

2019-05-07 14:34:03 UTC  

ye

2019-05-07 14:34:07 UTC  

what if the mother knows the child has no potential

2019-05-07 14:34:07 UTC  

Yes, both economically, socially, and medically

2019-05-07 14:34:26 UTC  

thomas no

2019-05-07 14:34:31 UTC  

youchie

2019-05-07 14:34:45 UTC  

For example a teen pregnancy has less potential to get the job they want or to continue in their life

2019-05-07 14:35:10 UTC  

You would then be impeding on the mom's potential

2019-05-07 14:35:17 UTC  

Medically yes, if the mother's life is at risk then the fetus would be unviable anyway, and even if you could save the fetus while killing the mother I think that a current life has precedent over potential life

2019-05-07 14:35:35 UTC  

also in cases of rape. billcat, sperm and egg = potential for life right? do you think abortion should be allowed in cases of rape

2019-05-07 14:35:38 UTC  

"Socially an economically?" No, that's just a cheap excuse to absolve somebody of a poor choice with a poorer solution

2019-05-07 14:36:03 UTC  

so you would save a potential life by killing a already living human

2019-05-07 14:36:06 UTC  

So, then by saying "current life has precedent over potential life" it would be morally wrong to force a mother to have a child which would ruin her current life for a potential of life

2019-05-07 14:36:50 UTC  

I'll start by responding to ashnaa, Once we can agree on the vast majority of abortion cases, then we can address each outlier group

2019-05-07 14:37:01 UTC  

To thomas, I literally just said the opposite

2019-05-07 14:37:13 UTC  

wait what, sorry my english bad

2019-05-07 14:37:24 UTC  

we're not going to agree

2019-05-07 14:37:24 UTC  

GG @ashnaa, you just advanced to level 7!

2019-05-07 14:37:26 UTC  

And to Komrade, nobody is forcing the mother to keep the child?

2019-05-07 14:37:48 UTC  

You're saying they shouldn't get an abortion

2019-05-07 14:38:15 UTC  

So, they'd then need to keep the child or put them up for adoption or a foster home. All of which end poorly

2019-05-07 14:38:16 UTC  

No, because ending a life because it might harm your economic status is immoral to my view