Message from @Gerry

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2019-05-15 11:19:37 UTC  

A good comparison would be disciplining a child. If the child does something bad, you might threaten to take away, say, a toy. If your child says they'll throw a tantrum do you simply say "Oh, well I don't want that, I won't take your toy away because I don't want to listen to a tantrum"?

2019-05-15 11:22:47 UTC  

As for the actual proposed law itself, I can't actually seem to *find* the damn thing. Like, the entire proposed law in writing detailing what will and will not be banned. Just a bunch of second hand sources via NY times or some other brain melting opinion piece

2019-05-15 11:23:25 UTC  

There should be no gun laws

2019-05-15 11:23:34 UTC  

Cuz bad people will get gun anyway

2019-05-15 11:23:59 UTC  

Yea, it's a weak justification that detracts from the actual discussion imo

2019-05-15 11:24:17 UTC  

It's especially hilarious watching people compare this to The Handmaid's tale

2019-05-15 11:24:38 UTC  

Yoikes

2019-05-15 11:24:56 UTC  

I've watched the show and it literally features women (those who are still fertile) being forcefully raped and mutilated in order to bare children. Not at all comparable.

2019-05-15 11:25:07 UTC  

It's the feminist equivalent of "drumpf is literally hitler"

2019-05-15 11:25:20 UTC  

True

2019-05-15 11:26:08 UTC  

What confuses me is so many people seem to have a strong view on this law but nobody has been able to actually send me the proposed legislation. Wouldn't you read it over before forming an opinion?

2019-05-15 11:26:42 UTC  

People should

2019-05-15 11:27:15 UTC  

But i think its just instagram thots posting their opinions and people just adopt them

2019-05-15 11:27:46 UTC  

If I can't find it I'll probably just have to way until Andrew releases a video over at DWR

2019-05-15 11:28:03 UTC  

He always has a way of finding these and linking them in his video citations which is nice

2019-05-15 11:33:59 UTC  

@Billcat I mean what I know about the law is that it criminalises abortion when a heartbeat is first seen which can be as early as 6 weeks, when most people don't even know they are pregnant. I also know that it treats it similarly to murder or manslaughter meaning that in some cases it could lead to the death penalty

2019-05-15 11:34:52 UTC  

I also know that it follows you through states meaning that it's an infringement upon purples rights to free movement between states.

2019-05-15 11:36:04 UTC  

Well, see, that's where my problem is. I'm speaking to another person right now and they are claiming the bill begins life begins at conception, so clearly there is a general unknowingness of the specifics of the bill

2019-05-15 11:36:17 UTC  

Which is why I'd like to be able to read it before I have any strong views regarding it

2019-05-15 11:36:57 UTC  

wait don't trust me on this im really unsure

2019-05-15 12:17:27 UTC  

I think we all are unsure

2019-05-15 12:17:54 UTC  

But if you find the bill could you link us it

2019-05-15 13:15:00 UTC  

The bar should be set based on what the job requires

2019-05-15 13:16:10 UTC  

Roe v Wade is fuming rn

2019-05-15 13:22:34 UTC  

I disagree women are needed at home and shouldn't be in combat. I know someone who told me he left the military as soon as they started putting women into combat roles because he knew that when a girl dies in the battlefield morale goes down. For some reason it affects men big time.

2019-05-15 13:23:17 UTC  

Also the 19th amendment was originally suppose to be for black men having rights and not women. Why? Because they actually fight and die for their rights.

2019-05-15 13:23:30 UTC  

Not bra burn

2019-05-15 13:24:06 UTC  

emily davison

2019-05-15 13:24:31 UTC  

nvm

2019-05-15 13:24:38 UTC  

KEITHREN

2019-05-15 13:24:42 UTC  

she burnt postboxes

2019-05-15 13:24:53 UTC  

is she that interd lady

2019-05-15 13:24:57 UTC  

yep

2019-05-15 13:25:02 UTC  

the one who got run over by a horse

2019-05-15 13:25:04 UTC  

ohhhh ok that lady

2019-05-15 13:25:09 UTC  

she imo is kinda stupid

2019-05-15 13:25:13 UTC  

yeah she is

2019-05-15 13:25:21 UTC  

she's the first advocate that came to mind

2019-05-15 13:25:32 UTC  

which is kind of messed up

2019-05-15 13:25:37 UTC  

hell yea, lets walk onto the track and get trampled on cuz i wanted to pin a badge

2019-05-15 13:25:39 UTC  

yeehaw