Gender dysphoria is indeed a mental illness

Gender is a spectrum and based on personal identity

Gender is not malleable, it is not a spectrum, and it is not based on personal identity. It is set in stone from the day of your birth. If you were born a woman, you are a woman and always will be a woman. If you were born a man, you always will be a man. Gender and sex are one in the same.

@James McKinnon ignorant, dumb, but most importantly incorrect.

You know what’s ignorant? People treating gender dysphoria and transgenerism as simply a part of reality. It is a **mental illness.** Does it do any good for someone who is schizophrenic to tell them that their idea of reality is true? No, it isn’t. You would send them to a place where they can be helped medically. People say that trans people are already helped medically with the surgery. They’re not. The transgender suicide rate is 40%, compared to the national average of 6%. People who have the surgery (which is genital mutilation by the way) are 20 times more likely to commit suicide than non-trans people. Being trans hurts people physically and mentally, and we cannot treat this mental illness as if it were a part of reality.

TEST

The culture war is between those who claim reality is whatever they want it to be. And those who see the world as a place to act in. Its about what is real vs what people want everyone elses perceptions to conform to. We have an uphill battle to reverse all this

Basically every major social problem these days hinges on whats real vs what people want to be real

@James McKinnon You're not a doctor. The medical professionals think this is best for their patients.

Your "feels" on this topic are meaningless.

Professionals are as susceptible to cultural blindness and indoctrination as anyone else.

"as susceptible"? No. They are specialists in their field with years of experience conducting research and experience to help the rest of us.

Armchair retards like @James McKinnon think they know better what "helps" people than doctors...right...

Armchair retard? Is that the best you can do?

GG @James McKinnon, you just advanced to level 1!

Much like members of the soviet union had a choice to stand by their principles or speak out against a fabrication of reality that deamonized certain groups, or elevated certain unproven ideas above others based on "fairness" or "the greater good" (this would get you murderedor imprisoned), or to tow the party line... right now professionals can speak out and see their popularity and career aspirations drop like a rock because theyre heretics in the eyes of the progressive church, or they can live the lie and at least provide for themselves and create the veneer of a good life

You don’t have to be a specialist to know what the facts are.

Yes, because you can look at the conclusions and findings that those specialists found and ELI5 for you.

Saying something is a mental illness and then doing nothing but worsening the situation is pretty hypocritical.

We have created a lot of titles, but theres a lot of people who hold those titles that arent terribly intelligent outside their field

And there are those who are more ideologically motivated than interested in whats true

“Your feels in this topic are meaningless.”
Wouldn’t that mean that the “feels” of trans people are meaningless too?

We aren't debating "feels"

You’re the one that brought it up!

You said my feels are meaningless when all I’ve done is state facts.

Anything you do that results in a 40% suicide rate should be considered a mental illness

Do your own googling. Read Wikipedia, read medical journals, I'm not going to do that for you. Your opinion differs from scientific consensus.

And yes, it's a mental illness

Going along with a mentally ill person’s fantasy isn’t solving anything. Transgenderism is a prime example.

Well, for one, Wikipedia is a bullcrap site to use for facts

Its not a mental illness is anymore but I agree

Thats why you click on the numbers on the end if the sentence and use those as sources. Not Wiki itself. I cant believ people still dont know this

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321258.php

Better

"Wikipedia is a bullshit site", ok I'm done with you - you can go fuck yourself troll

I'm not going to have THAT discussion for the thousandth time

I am not saying its a bullshit site. I am saying use the sources THEY use. Dont use Wiki as a source

I’m not a troll

Or I mean you can but it is immeaditly discredited

If I were a troll I would be yelling out homophobic and transphobic slurs every five seconds. I haven’t been rude once. You’re the one who told me to f*** myself.

LMAO