that's from wikipedia but okay

Wikepedia is more often wrong and cherrypicked information

clearly everyone else is wrong and you're right @Shnaky you know more *tranny shit* than anyone

wikipedia is wrong, the oxford dictionary is wrong, medicine is wrong

Im serious though, acedmia doesnt define reality

Man cannot define reality

you're effectively stating that trans women cannot be mothers

that is not a gender role

Correct

You're the one that said that

mother is not a gender role

the gender role would be *only cis women can be mothers* in your eyes because that is the rule imposed - but alas, that is false.

Me
>Gender roles are for the sex roles which is man and woman; father and mother. Its what the sexes make them
You
>@Shnaky that is another example of a gender role

a gender role is an arbitrary rule imposed by society

it's a codex of expectations

Well then that arbitrary "role" of man and woman cant always apply to the sexes, then whos yo say its a feminine or masculine role?

saying that *women are mothers* like you have not only reduces women to their sex organs but excludes trans women who want to raise their children as a mother

They arent women though, they are men desparately trying to reconsile the castration the medical industry pressured onto them

yeah, you're trolling - this is done

I can be a mother and father

I have a vagina and dick

And tits

I sexually identify as

Im. Not

A flying gorilla

what else did i expect? like really?

Im literally a real ftmtf

<@&508200811625447449> trolls here invalidating gender identities

Lol

@Shnaky hey wanna smash

there's a difference between debating the topic versus openly mocking it - and that's what you're doing

I think you’re sexy

You're just so excaped onto youre false subjective reality its easier to reject the fact that society is pressuring trans people to mutilate thier genitals and make them ibfertile

Lol

@alexandra shutup

I'm serious

>>>ShnakyToday at 7:25 PM
Im literally a real ftmtf

what the fuck is that

What is happening here?

trolls derailing a debate, what else

What's the debate about?