*has that smug phoenix Wright face on*

Actually all things considered the number should be closer to 90

0.6% of the population is trans

18 died

15.7K murders in 2017 (we can assume it didn't go down enough to debunk my next point)

0.6% = 1/166.66667

18 * 166.66667 = 3,000

Unless the muder rate plummeted over 70% lower (70 instead of 80 cause there's still time left in this year) then I'm right and even then it would still have to be even lower to actually be a hate crime

All this shows is that if anything people are LESS likely to murder trans people

I rest my case

Hate Crimes are determined based on the circumstances of the singular crime. The whole point of hate Crimes is to categorize violence committed against a certain subset of people

I'm sure they're "hate crimes" theyres just not enough to warrant anything close to an epidemic

I'd say violence in the United States is an epidemic but that's caused by mostly "hate" neutral causes in my opinion

@Soup Can Sam nah the article is only about straight up murders

And if you read my above comment of me debunking the notion of it being a hate crime you'll understand

yeah but thats just stating that there’s not a wave of hate crimes, no?

the article doesnt really give much more context that that they were trans murder cases

but as individual cases they *could* be hate crimes

But it still means they're over 5 times safer than the average person

i suppose
though I think the article was focusing on people of color that are trans

which is a whole other stat

That's not really how statistics work

It doesn't mean theyre safer it just means less of them died

What a weird article

So did they take dental exams?

Less of them dying litterally means they're safer

Especially when it's a 5 times discrepancy

I'd imagine either dental or DNA

How do they get burned DNA?

I believe it would either be dental or bone marrow

No it doesnt mean they are safer, them being trans has no affect on whether or not they get mugged and die in the process

There is no way in hell that they got DNA extract from a dead body

Burned*

A mugger isn't just gonna stop and be like "Wait are you trans? I don't want you to feel triggered" before he stabs you I the gut and takes your wallet

GG @Soup Can Sam, you just advanced to level 12!

@Soup Can Sam

Buddy, a FIVE TIMES DISCREPANCY and you're gonna say that has no correlation in a case of murders

Well

He's a courteous mugger, soup

I'm going to say that A. That's a single article I have not sourced and B. Being trans isn't something that correlates directly to safety

He only goes after those who deserve to be mugged, the *cis gendered*

Also muggers don't kill they steal

And kill if they have to

they try not to kill tho\

I understand that, but whether or not a demographic you belong to is brutally murdered or not does not make you safer

It does...

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It means people target your group

Or not

Like BLM

They mostly protest white police officers

That's why you never see black officers being talked about on the media

That is entirely contextual to the cases