Message from @[The Order Above Infinity]

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2019-09-30 03:16:51 UTC  

ya

2019-09-30 03:17:41 UTC  

Morality is subjective

2019-09-30 03:17:57 UTC  

Murder is moral if you believe it's right

And immoral if you think it's wrong

2019-09-30 03:18:23 UTC  

So would these morals apply to a person and their family unit

2019-09-30 03:18:35 UTC  

What should there be which would stop a person making his children into slaves

2019-09-30 03:18:46 UTC  

The only way to be an immoral person is if you belive morality isn't subjective

2019-09-30 03:19:38 UTC  

@bink general morality

2019-09-30 03:19:46 UTC  

The majority think murder is immoral

2019-09-30 03:19:55 UTC  

That would be general morality

2019-09-30 03:20:01 UTC  

Or majority morality

2019-09-30 03:20:07 UTC  

Or mass subjectivity

2019-09-30 03:20:39 UTC  

Btw these aren't terms I just am splicing words together that suit my purpose

2019-09-30 03:20:48 UTC  

I believe that as humans evolved over time, they developed a sense of right and wrong that allowed them to survive better as a specie. For example, inflicting pain unjustifiably was conceived to be a bad thing, because it would be bad evolutionarily speaking to fight against one's own specie, and especially towards one's own family.
That is, in a sense, 'biological' morality, which I think is closer to objective, although, perhaps it could have been different if we were another specie that survived in another way.

As to 'cultural' morality, I believe this is closer to the subjective side as each culture can 'decide' what it views as moral and immoral based on a set of principles which may be detached from the evolutionary morality.

2019-09-30 03:21:25 UTC  

Objectivity is also false

2019-09-30 03:21:30 UTC  

As a concept

2019-09-30 03:21:32 UTC  

It's wrong

2019-09-30 03:21:39 UTC  

Nothing is objective

2019-09-30 03:21:52 UTC  

There's objective beyond a reasonable doubt

2019-09-30 03:21:59 UTC  

But what makes it immoral

2019-09-30 03:22:14 UTC  

Because the majority say it's immoral

2019-09-30 03:22:54 UTC  

It's objective beyond a reasonable doubt that oxygen exists (the way it wouldn't be is if everything was a simulation)

2019-09-30 03:23:03 UTC  

Actually no there is 1 objective thibg

2019-09-30 03:23:05 UTC  

Thing*

2019-09-30 03:23:09 UTC  

Conciousness

2019-09-30 03:23:50 UTC  

Me being alive is objective fact

Even if others believe otherwise

Although theres no way of proving it to others so it's an objectivity that can only be known by a single individual

2019-09-30 03:25:01 UTC  

I'll correct myself, then:
I don't believe that morality is a tangible thing that exists in reality (although the chemical processes that occur in our brains when we witness something we view as moral / immoral are, although this is another topic), what I meant to say was that the 'biological' morality usually serves as a more stable foundation which is independent of the current culture one lives in, as opposed to 'cultural' morality, which is heavily dependent on that.

Bink, to respond to your question, I'd say that an action is immoral if it goes against one of the morals one holds, and one can ask what the source of that morality is.

2019-09-30 03:27:02 UTC  

Morality is a broad subject

2019-09-30 03:32:36 UTC  

And I suppose it probably goes better in <#523834972126052352>, so sorry for spamming this chat. πŸ˜…

2019-09-30 03:32:36 UTC  

GG @RoiKadmon, you just advanced to level 1!

2019-09-30 04:25:08 UTC  

It doesn't matter

2019-09-30 04:25:23 UTC  

If you didn't get the spam ping from dyno you didn't spam

2019-09-30 05:10:06 UTC  

What's the issues with gender?

2019-09-30 05:10:26 UTC  

idk

2019-09-30 05:10:34 UTC  

its just controversial

2019-09-30 05:10:38 UTC  

There's only 2 and u can pick which ever

2019-09-30 05:10:40 UTC  

eg. is gender the old def or the new

2019-09-30 05:10:53 UTC  

Case and point

2019-09-30 05:10:56 UTC  

UwU

2019-09-30 05:11:03 UTC  

some say theres an unlimited number of genders

2019-09-30 05:11:08 UTC  

some say gender is the same as sex

2019-09-30 05:16:45 UTC