Message from @Togger

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2019-11-14 21:34:06 UTC  

What is gender dysphoria? Did doctors make it up?

2019-11-14 21:34:07 UTC  

Okay, for two reasons:

2019-11-14 21:34:22 UTC  

1) There are physiological roots to transsexualism;

2019-11-14 21:34:22 UTC  

I'm eager to see you debunk a recognized medical condition

2019-11-14 21:34:35 UTC  

2) Not every transsexual suffers from any subsequent mental illness.

2019-11-14 21:34:35 UTC  

gender and sex meant the same thing up until about 4 years ago btw

2019-11-14 21:34:43 UTC  

I've seen professionals describe it as not being a mental illness

2019-11-14 21:34:56 UTC  

So, if you cannot tie every single transsexual to a mental illness, you cannot equate transsexualism to a mental illness.

2019-11-14 21:34:56 UTC  

@Cobra Commander I personally don't know enough about the degree tract itself to say for sure how it is different but I still think people who want to take it should be able to as long as their university offers it

2019-11-14 21:35:05 UTC  

Sure I can

2019-11-14 21:35:08 UTC  

I am not denying the existence of gender dysphoria either.

2019-11-14 21:35:10 UTC  

You can't.

2019-11-14 21:35:15 UTC  

I can also stipulate that gay people are ill as well

2019-11-14 21:35:19 UTC  

also gender dysphoria is absolutely a mental illness and treating it like it isn't is hurting people

2019-11-14 21:35:28 UTC  

If transsexualism is a mental illness per se, why are there healthy transsexuals?

2019-11-14 21:35:32 UTC  

it does absolutely nothing to combat problems that people with it have

2019-11-14 21:35:36 UTC  

Define "healthy" lmao

2019-11-14 21:35:41 UTC  

Healthy individuals.

2019-11-14 21:35:44 UTC  

Healthy like you and me.

2019-11-14 21:35:51 UTC  

Is it healthy to not identify with you genital?

2019-11-14 21:35:53 UTC  

Not on meds.

2019-11-14 21:35:58 UTC  

Not on some sort of treatment.

2019-11-14 21:36:00 UTC  

Not suicidal.

2019-11-14 21:36:01 UTC  

Being on meds is what makes someone sick?

2019-11-14 21:36:02 UTC  

No self-harm.

2019-11-14 21:36:10 UTC  

Presumably, yes.

2019-11-14 21:36:14 UTC  

Lots of African kids who are perfectly healthy, since they aren't getting medicine

2019-11-14 21:36:17 UTC  

That's stupid

2019-11-14 21:36:19 UTC  

Transgender people have been around for much longer than 4 years @Cobra Commander

2019-11-14 21:36:23 UTC  

This argument you have is really dumb

2019-11-14 21:36:25 UTC  

You know exactly what I am saying.

2019-11-14 21:36:29 UTC  

Stop twisting it.

2019-11-14 21:36:31 UTC  

@Vlad why are they killing them selves more often? And dude I could literally say the same thing about crazy people, some can act normal and healthy, but they have weird fucking problems

2019-11-14 21:36:34 UTC  

We're talking in general terms.

2019-11-14 21:36:35 UTC  

also I wasn't saying people *can't* take gender studies btw, I was simply explaining how it's ultimately a worthless class

2019-11-14 21:36:51 UTC  

You don't need to nitpick anything.

2019-11-14 21:36:55 UTC  

Ted Bundy seemed normal until he started killing people

2019-11-14 21:37:15 UTC  

What you've said thus far: 1) transgendered people are not mentally ill 2) There are only two sexes, male and female 3) There are only two genders, male and female

2019-11-14 21:37:16 UTC  

And I know transgender people have been around for 4+ years, I said very specifically that gender and sex were synonyms until very recently

2019-11-14 21:37:22 UTC  

All of that is easily debunked and also very dumb