There is plenty of evidence btw to contradict the popular idea that having gay parents is going to make you gay

I don't see how trannies would be much different

Why do you not see millions of them in the 50's then?

Why is it now that you see a load of them?

There were about just as many, except in hiding

Including married men with kids who "on the down low" want to fuck dudes

Pretty well researched stuff, you should take a look

Why would you do something for attention and hide it from everyone, that would make no sense

And sure I'll look into it more ig

Right, you're looking at the like...5% who "do it for attention" and generalizing the entire population

Also there is a grey area between so taboo that it must be kept secret for safety

And taboo to the line that we have right now

In fact, this grey area is PERFECT for getting as many of the uhhh "posers" if we can call them that

It's taboo, but also sort of accepted in many circles - and legally, they are protected and not liable to be persecuted

You are creating a breeding ground for that 5-10% that might be "faking" it

Or otherwise getting sucked in due to the notion that it will turn them into a magical snowflake

(they are, that is)

You cited that as a reason for why they do that though, I was going off of that

I just think this "risk" that gays or trannies will "convert" others is extremely overstated - by orders of magnitude

My dad thinks foster kids are better off in one of those like...foster centers? Than being adopted by a gay couple

Like, worst case scenario, they'd 100% make their kid gay (though the statistics show a VERY different reality)

But the homophobia is just too strong

A neglected kid in some communal housing (IN RUSSIA, for fucks sake) is apparently better off than being adopted by (comparatively) well off gay couples

Now, perhaps your position is not that extreme

As a straight male, I have never been tempted by gays or trannies - I don't see any risk here, I don't get it

I have stats that cover this iirc but we still don't have image perms in this chat

It'd make sense that exposing behaviors to people would make them more willing to participate in them

Obviously that doesn't mean that everyone will accept them it just means that it would make the chance higher

Well, if you have stats that cover this, you can just post a link to them

It makes sense that exposing people to behaviors might make them participate in them more, however there are several issues with this

1) The "poser" population that you guys like to lean on; it is BECAUSE it is taboo that they engage in these behaviors

2) The "real" gays and trannies would still be there, right? Except hiding. Maybe even in "normal" relationships, acting like you'd expect. But they are suffering right? None of it is real. It's because society is forcing them in this box, that they are forced to be "normal"

There are two groups, right? "Real" gays and trannies, and "posers"

That addresses both of them. Even if you have stats that show that acceptance of the LGBTQ+ community, ends up in more members of the LGBTQ+ community overall - your point is moot.

Unless you don't believe in "real" trannies and gays, I don't see how your point pans out.

If you're saying that it shouldn't be "encouraged", sure man - but where is that happening, besides the entertainment media outlet? Unless you think simple saying "it's ok to be gay" and "it's okay to be trans" is some kind of a call to action?

The stats I have are from like 2012

And I don't really think there's a load of them pretending to be gay

I guess maybe some kids are?

Uh what else

Oh yeah where it's being pushed