Message from @Sophie

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2020-03-11 18:36:06 UTC  

Read the Wikipedia article, read the sources you’ve posted, ask an Econ or philosophy professor

2020-03-11 18:36:08 UTC  

A positive statement is a statement that can be tested.

2020-03-11 18:36:20 UTC  

You are fundamentally mistaken about your understanding of a normative claim

2020-03-11 18:36:21 UTC  

Sophie can you explain to me how you would test this

2020-03-11 18:36:24 UTC  

"Taxes are too high"

2020-03-11 18:36:38 UTC  

You don't even have a line where taxes become "high" or "low"

2020-03-11 18:36:41 UTC  

I didn’t say it was a positive statement

2020-03-11 18:36:46 UTC  

Then it's normative.

2020-03-11 18:36:53 UTC  

No, that’s not the way it works

2020-03-11 18:36:57 UTC  

If it isn't positive it's normative, that's how things go in economics.

2020-03-11 18:37:01 UTC  

Not all statements are positive or normative

2020-03-11 18:37:04 UTC  

Again, you’re just wrong

2020-03-11 18:37:04 UTC  

There are only two types of statements

2020-03-11 18:37:15 UTC  

It's either able to be tested, or it's an opinion

2020-03-11 18:37:20 UTC  

Objective or deductive statements are not normative or positive

2020-03-11 18:37:24 UTC  

Again, no.

2020-03-11 18:37:33 UTC  

You need to talk to a professor or read about this

2020-03-11 18:37:35 UTC  

Objective are positive.

2020-03-11 18:37:38 UTC  

You can test them.

2020-03-11 18:37:41 UTC  

You don’t understand what you’re talking about

2020-03-11 18:37:53 UTC  

No

2020-03-11 18:37:59 UTC  

A deductive statement: Higher interest rates can reduce growth as people borrow less, this is positive.

2020-03-11 18:38:00 UTC  

Positive has to have a cause and effect

2020-03-11 18:38:18 UTC  

“The sky is blue” is not a positive statement

2020-03-11 18:38:22 UTC  

That's positive.

2020-03-11 18:38:24 UTC  

We can test that claim.

2020-03-11 18:38:27 UTC  

But it is an objective statement

2020-03-11 18:38:47 UTC  

Which is positive.

2020-03-11 18:38:54 UTC  

Like I said, it all branches under positive or normative.

2020-03-11 18:38:59 UTC  

Ok, I tire of this. I assume you either know you’re wrong and are just trying to argue to save face, or you’re just too dumb to ever understand

2020-03-11 18:39:12 UTC  

No, you’re simply wrong. Please educate yourself.

2020-03-11 18:39:48 UTC  

Let me just get the good old economic textbook

2020-03-11 18:40:05 UTC  

@Dr.Cosby Did you see my proof?

2020-03-11 18:40:25 UTC  

I told you I have no issues providing evidence, I was simply making an opinion however.

2020-03-11 18:41:15 UTC  

Please, get an economics textbook.

2020-03-11 19:46:31 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Yeah mate, I took a look at your link dump - so, care to summarize any of the points there? I doubt you read ANY of these lol

2020-03-11 19:46:55 UTC  

Actually I have; Corporate taxes reducing investment is one of the flaws.

2020-03-11 19:47:01 UTC  

Which is obviously bad, it leads to lower wages.

2020-03-11 19:47:24 UTC  

First one concludes, "We present cross-country evidence that effective corporate tax rates have a large and significant adverse effect on corpo-rate investment and entrepreneurship"

2020-03-11 19:47:44 UTC  

So, why are tax rates too high?

2020-03-11 19:48:18 UTC  

Since I believe in a 0% Corporate tax, the evidence suggests taxing capital income is reducing investment and competition.