Message from @McBacoon
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T-14 Armata is a hype beast. Because its a new weapon system, as usual Russia hypes it up with statements like "abrams killer" "best tank there is". Russia specifically madr this tank to have an answer to USA-s Abrams. Russias current tank doctrine (since pre ww2) is "alot of good enough tanks". With T-14 they tried to change that. But there are multiple problems: the tank itself, strategy and tactics. 1) The tank itself is a pure hypebeast. I get thats still kinda in development (like the F-35), but what we can tell from offical footage, its not good. The tank has never been seen to operate its vertical stabilization. When it has been firing, the tank can be seeing oscillate back and forth, and under dampened movement like this is bad and much worse on a moving tank. T-14 uses auto-loader, and most tankers are pretty sure that its not a a very reliable system, as it enters re-loading phase, the gun is still seen not in control of its recoil. There is also evidence that T-14 has problem with accuracy, that is probably caused with wrong ammo screening data and/or gun not being stabilized. Its a hype beast that gun outgunned by M1A2 SepV3. 2) The strategy: Russia simply cannot use this tank. They can, but only a few, because they simply dont have enough money to build them, let alone operate them. If they really-really wanted to, they could make a T-14 division in 20 years. But considering Russia has 20K tanks, it really counts for nothing. The current plan that was to build 100 tanks, has also been put to hold. 3) tactics. Russia fared pretty badly with their armour units in Checnya and Georgia. Obviously they have learned something, but Ukraine wasnt eny better either. If russia doesent learn how to use their tanks WITH infantry, meaning that the infantry covers the tank from RPG-s from buildings etc...
I think I have stated my reasons.
Now you have, yes.
Sorry for making a mess... I wrote this on my phone... so not much of a way to make it less cancer looking
You're right, my mistake.
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I just read your book. I'm not privy to info on the 14 but I don't doubt anything you said.
What I have heard was the Russians went defense heavy with this tank, but we won't know how good the armor is until it's deployed and shot at.
I'm pretty sure Russia's tank backbone is ment to be the T-90MS. They have continued to build the 90 family for the last 25 years.
Russia´s backbone is still T-72 and T-80
I have also heard of the T-14 going "defense heavy" but no exact info so... but they do use Afghanit
here, my friend sums it up pretty good: https://youtu.be/L2nAVzKUVRE
What is his creditals?
creditals?
you mean like... does he have mailitary backround?
That, or has quality sources
he has quality sources + he himself know alot about military stuff and has been dealin with it for quite some time now
but no, no military backround
I'll take it a pinch of salt
why?
lmao
Because information and facts are no longer used by most people to establish what is but to confirm their bias. I need to make sure your friend is not guilty of conformation bias.
Yeah bias happens a lot.
I am going on about the tank that Vladmir Putin released in 2015.
Ya, it's pretty modern.
I mean if there isn't a world war three then as Tyberius said, we won't really have an idea of how it will perform.
From what I can see in the UK, we have also focused on defense (again) but heightened awareness and intel on the Ajax line of tanks.
The other additions in the series are mostly utility & resupply based along with maybe another frontline one being developed.
If the reports of what I'm hearing is correct, we might find out very soon how good the T-14 is. The Russians are moving military forces on Ukraine border again, and this time it looks like they're going to go for it.
if you look at the video, there is no opinion presented in there. Its just pure fact video, explaining more graphiqally how the systems work. What could you even opinionate in there? That afghanit doesent use a single projectile? lmao
And no, there will be no war in Ukraine. Pure bullshit and everyone who has no clue of the subject is panicing right now.
And there is no way, that they are going to deploy T-14.
They are moving forces to Ukranian border as a political move. Although Ukraine really has no hostile thoughts. But just in case, they are deterring them from Ukraine making a possible attack towards LNR/DNR.
LNR= Luhansk
DNR= Donetsk
Again, facts can be cherry picked. Just ask FOX, CNN, or NBC.
Can't agree with you here. There's been hardly any response to Azov and the Russians want everything East of the Deneiper
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"cherrypicking facts on a WEAPON SYSTEM"
lmao
its like saying