Message from @Green Syndicalism

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2019-07-26 02:10:38 UTC  

Wait, what is the effect of that?

2019-07-26 02:10:43 UTC  

What is the goal or intention

2019-07-26 02:11:00 UTC  

to popularise free trade in both educational institutions (like colleges) and in the public eye

2019-07-26 02:11:25 UTC  

the name even sounds great right

2019-07-26 02:11:35 UTC  

"why would you be against FREE trade?"

2019-07-26 02:11:41 UTC  

are you anti FREEDOM???

2019-07-26 02:12:17 UTC  

the koch bros import and export a bunch of products

2019-07-26 02:12:34 UTC  

so they want trade barriers to be lower so that more people buy their stuff, and they can sell more of their stuff

2019-07-26 02:12:48 UTC  

also theyre ideological libertarians

2019-07-26 02:13:04 UTC  

who believe we should do literally whatever we want without much, if any, government interference

2019-07-26 02:13:10 UTC  

and that includes economic decisions

2019-07-26 02:14:18 UTC  

Free trade is good to an extent though right? Just in a well regulated example

2019-07-26 02:14:24 UTC  

In moderation basically

2019-07-26 02:14:37 UTC  

free trade for industries you have no interest in protecting is good

2019-07-26 02:15:03 UTC  

or you simply want cheaper prices for other reasons

2019-07-26 02:15:07 UTC  

like steel say

2019-07-26 02:15:18 UTC  

steel is an input in dozens of other industries

2019-07-26 02:15:39 UTC  

so if you increase the price of steel with tariffs, you increase the costs of production for all those other industries

2019-07-26 02:15:58 UTC  

obviously this isnt good

2019-07-26 02:16:16 UTC  

but say you have a phone company in america and one in china

2019-07-26 02:16:31 UTC  

phones arent an input into anything else

2019-07-26 02:16:55 UTC  

so you raise the price of phone imports, but dont affect any other industry's production costs

2019-07-26 02:18:18 UTC  

in the short term you may affect demand of the companies who *sell to the foriegn phone companies*, but this will be swept up by your local phone manufacturer who has *increased demand* because they offer cheaper phones than china now

2019-07-26 02:18:28 UTC  

Very intriguing. So its greed essentially, to promote free trade and avoid the tariffs at the global economies languishment for your own personal gain.

2019-07-26 02:18:46 UTC  

yea

2019-07-26 02:19:03 UTC  

hmmmm

2019-07-26 02:19:04 UTC  

2019-07-26 02:19:25 UTC  

the main reason for free trade is your industries dont have competition anywhere in the world, so you dont need to protect your industries

2019-07-26 02:19:27 UTC  

<@&508200811625447449> can you guys get this pokemon bot out of this chat por favor?

2019-07-26 02:19:49 UTC  

and that was the case for a long time with america actually

2019-07-26 02:19:55 UTC  

but now china is competing

2019-07-26 02:20:11 UTC  

and europe is fully rebuilt

2019-07-26 02:20:18 UTC  

Haven't you heard? We have no power besides mute

2019-07-26 02:20:22 UTC  

So if we were worried about 5G in China and the security risk it proposes, then can we impose tariffs to make it difficult for them to produce that technology?

2019-07-26 02:20:22 UTC  

(although shitty cuz of dumb economic system)

2019-07-26 02:20:32 UTC  

Okay you have power to tell someone who has power. @Darman

2019-07-26 02:20:47 UTC  

well yea you could mandate that america must use local companies for 5g products

2019-07-26 02:20:55 UTC  

but china will still sell to europe

2019-07-26 02:21:10 UTC  

its more that you're doing a good thing for local business

2019-07-26 02:21:15 UTC  

rather than "taking china out"

2019-07-26 02:21:17 UTC  

Mmmmmm. They are already partnering with Europe too to set up 5G towers at a reduced price.