Message from @Woodmill

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2020-03-04 20:15:19 UTC  

The new deal was a driving reason why the great depression persisted, i.e it increased the recovery time.

2020-03-04 20:15:42 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Ah, the Austrian perspective

2020-03-04 20:16:28 UTC  

Well I would say it's mainstream accepted now

2020-03-04 20:17:12 UTC  

I would check this paper
https://www.minneapolisfed.org/research/wp/wp597.pdf
> There are two striking aspects of the recovery from the Great Depression in the United States: the recovery was very weak and real wages in several sectors rose significantly above trend. These data contrast sharply with neoclassical theory, which predicts a strong recovery with low real wages. We evaluate the contribution of New Deal cartelization policies designed to limit competition and increase labor bargaining power to the persistence of the Depression. We develop a model of the bargaining process between labor and firms that occurred with these policies, and embed that model within a multi-sector dynamic general equilibrium model. We find that New Deal cartelization policies are an important factor in accounting for the post-1933 Depression. We also find that the key depressing element of New Deal policies was not collusion per se, but rather the link between paying high wages and collusion.

2020-03-04 20:17:14 UTC  

More than it used to be for sure

2020-03-04 20:17:19 UTC  

Yeah

2020-03-04 20:17:47 UTC  

That’s pretty widely discredited, even in Chicago circles people accept Keynesian economics were required to correct demand side failures

2020-03-04 20:18:27 UTC  

"Keynesian economics"?

2020-03-04 20:18:40 UTC  

Yes, are you familiar?

2020-03-04 20:18:56 UTC  

I mean it's a wide term, there's not so much something called "Keynesian economics" anymore.

2020-03-04 20:19:14 UTC  

Anyways, the paper above.
> We find that New Deal cartelization policies are an important factor in accounting for the post-1933 Depression

2020-03-04 20:19:30 UTC  

That’s not accurate, do you have a question about what Keynesian economics refers to with regard to the Great Depression?

2020-03-04 20:20:08 UTC  

Keynesian economics isn't a thing, nor is "Chicago". If you go in an economics faculty nobody is identifying themselves as those names, it's just "economists".

2020-03-04 20:20:23 UTC  

...right

2020-03-04 20:20:35 UTC  

If you talk to economists about that, they’ll know exactly what you mean

2020-03-04 20:20:46 UTC  

Do you understand what I mean or do you need clarification?

2020-03-04 20:20:58 UTC  

Clarify

2020-03-04 20:21:18 UTC  

Ok, Chicago school is sort of the heart of neo-Austrian economics

2020-03-04 20:22:00 UTC  

Keynesian economics with regard to he Great Depression means providing job programs regardless of necessity, in order to provide demand for the market

2020-03-04 20:22:09 UTC  

Do you understand that?

2020-03-04 20:22:41 UTC  

Keynesian is good

2020-03-04 20:22:54 UTC  

Sure,
> Ok, Chicago school is sort of the heart of neo-Austrian economics
This is a word salad

2020-03-04 20:23:06 UTC  

Ok, so you don’t understand that?

2020-03-04 20:23:13 UTC  

There are little remaining of "schools" since the Lucas critique

2020-03-04 20:23:15 UTC  

You’re unfamiliar with Chicago school?

2020-03-04 20:23:28 UTC  

Lol

2020-03-04 20:23:32 UTC  

You’re adorable.

2020-03-04 20:23:38 UTC  

Finish your Econ degree honey

2020-03-04 20:23:46 UTC  

Then come back to the big boys table

2020-03-04 20:23:52 UTC  

That sounded kinda condescending

2020-03-04 20:24:17 UTC  

Yeah, he’s a high schooler who’s read a book

2020-03-04 20:24:27 UTC  

I'm familiar, but there's nothing with 'schools' anymore.

2020-03-04 20:24:29 UTC  

When he learns the subject matter he can debate in earnest

2020-03-04 20:25:06 UTC  

r

2020-03-05 09:49:40 UTC  

This is you.

2020-03-05 13:51:23 UTC  

Lol

2020-03-05 13:51:47 UTC  

That’s an amusing thing for the person with less education to send

2020-03-05 13:52:02 UTC  

But maybe you only thought you understood the effect 😉

2020-03-05 14:58:16 UTC  

Looks like the stock market hadn’t stabilized, it was just responding to expectations of a rate cut

2020-03-05 14:58:35 UTC  

What vindication for anyone who said we need a few days more data