Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2020-03-09 14:56:11 UTC  

It’s a short term thing, I.e a few days

2020-03-09 14:58:07 UTC  

Oh, but I thought supply chains were built to be immune to supply shocks?

2020-03-09 14:58:22 UTC  

That doesn’t make sense...

2020-03-09 14:58:37 UTC  

The supply chains are resistant to the shocks like coronavirus - that’s what I said.

2020-03-09 14:58:43 UTC  

It must be rough for Sid to wake up to the news each morning crying trying to figure out how he’s going to spin it so everything is fine lol

2020-03-09 14:58:47 UTC  

The oil price drop won’t effect firms, negatively.

2020-03-09 14:58:57 UTC  

That’s just an excuse. @Sophie

2020-03-09 14:59:03 UTC  

How could I negatively spin lower oil prices?

2020-03-09 14:59:07 UTC  

Unless those firms are involved in oil production.

2020-03-09 14:59:11 UTC  

Yeah, because an oil supply shock has never happened before...

2020-03-09 14:59:13 UTC  

Yes that’s true.

2020-03-09 14:59:21 UTC  

It has but not negatively.

2020-03-09 14:59:28 UTC  

As in a positive supply shock.

2020-03-09 14:59:40 UTC  

Stagflation?

2020-03-09 14:59:43 UTC  

I’m not referring to a rapid decrease in supply, I.e the ‘90 shock

2020-03-09 15:00:22 UTC  

I’m saying the current drop is only going to negatively effect the stock market for a moment. But consumers and businesses win, unless of course you’re an energy producer - but that isn’t the whole economy.

2020-03-09 15:01:10 UTC  

That’s not what happened in the 70s

2020-03-09 15:01:46 UTC  

The 70s is a totally different ballgame, it’s not the same as a large increase in supply now.

2020-03-09 15:02:20 UTC  

The 70s were the opposite, a negative supply shock.

2020-03-09 15:03:19 UTC  

So you’re saying there’s going to be a positive supply shock?

2020-03-09 15:04:31 UTC  

This is positive.

2020-03-09 15:04:39 UTC  

The price of oil declined due to an increase in supply.

2020-03-09 15:04:44 UTC  

The 70s was the opposite.

2020-03-09 15:05:52 UTC  

I get what you’re saying now. That could be good in the short run, but we’ll see in the long run

2020-03-09 15:06:21 UTC  

An increase in supply is normally beneficial for economies, unless you’re russia.

2020-03-09 15:06:37 UTC  

Since consumers and businesses face lower prices, I.e higher real income.

2020-03-09 15:07:55 UTC  

Yeah, but it can also create deflation, which can be less beneficial

2020-03-09 15:09:39 UTC  

Deflation isn’t harmful or harmless - it depends how it occurs.
Supply side deflation is a reduction in prices caused by a shift in production (i.e supply curve shifts out)
Demand side deflation is a reduction in prices caused by a reduction in demand, demand curve shifts in.

2020-03-09 15:09:50 UTC  

The latter can be harmful, the former however is not. What we’re seeing now is the supply side of deflation, this is pretty benign and to be welcomed

2020-03-09 15:10:07 UTC  

Have you learned about the lost decade yet?

2020-03-09 15:10:09 UTC  

Jw

2020-03-09 15:10:13 UTC  

When you see people saying “deflation is harmful and should be avoided ” they’re clueless. However economists use it in context of demand side deflation.

2020-03-09 15:10:20 UTC  

I.e in a recession.

2020-03-09 15:11:06 UTC  

Btw, typically economists talk about leftward and rightward shifts, it’s a bit more precise than “out” and “in”

2020-03-09 15:14:39 UTC  

Deflation also causes a decline of wages. So while what you’re saying is technically true, it’s not applicable to everyone in the economy.

2020-03-09 15:15:02 UTC  

Deflation doesn’t cause a decline in wages, what you’re referring to is demand side deflation. Say in a recession the demand for widgets falls, so the workers producing these widgets see their wages decline, all things constant.

2020-03-09 15:15:13 UTC  

Supply side deflation ends up raising real incomes, for obvious reasons.

2020-03-09 15:16:35 UTC  

When short run aggregate supply shifts right, what happens to the price level?

2020-03-09 15:16:49 UTC  

Falls.

2020-03-09 15:16:56 UTC  

This is pretty good, as it’s economic growth.

2020-03-09 15:16:59 UTC  

And what impact does that have on wages?