Message from @Scaranon
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I think that most ancaps will admit that there has never been anything approximating an ancap society. They will instead say that all of the essential features of an ancap society have existed apart from one another in previous societies, so there is reason to think that a society which manifests all of these features could function (we might imagine, for example - and I am not referring to actual history here -, that there have been societies with democracy and societies without slavery, but, until a certain point in time, there has never been a society with democracy and without slavery at the same time; without good reason to think these features are incompatible, we have reason to think a society could function with both).
So what the ancap really needs to point to is cases where the sorts of essential, controversial features of an ancap society have operated in previous societies. It's not so hard to find cases where broadly 'radical libertarian' practices have existed in previous society: examples of successful private school systems, private charity or 'friendly societies', private healthcare, etc. I think the more controversial practices are private law, private law enforcement, and private defense.
The examples which I see brought up a lot as cases of polycentric law are medieval Iceland, medieval Ireland, certain parts of the Ottoman Empire, certain parts of medieval Europe, and modern corporate/civil law. The idea isn't that these are all for-profit capitalist legal systems (with the exception of modern corporate/civil law, where for-profit private adjudicators do exist), but that these are all cases where a decentralized network of legal authorities (in at least some cases, like medieval Ireland, where membership to any legal organization was at the member's discretion, meaning you can switch from one clan/legal authority to another of your own free will) produced and enforced a single legal order among themselves through negotiation. For that matter, I believe that England up until the 19th century is also used as an example here: the legal system was monocentric, but actual enforcement of the law - except where the state had an interest as in treason or some similar cases - was usually private... I think that ancient Greece operated this way as well, yes? The family of a murder victim was generally charged with bringing the murderer to justice, even though he was condemned and punished by the state.
I think that this much shows that, in at least some circumstances, there is very good reason to think that anarchocapitalism could produce a successful legal order. I reject ancap all the same for moral reasons, not practical ones, however.
was there any ancap revoulutions or ancap parties before
no
the ancap ideology is relatively new
When was it created
it has never been tried before so it's hard to say it will 100% work
um
1949
around there
What will happen to the homeless on a ancap society?
the poor
well you love capitalism right
capitalism does the work
in simulations the lower class gets richer as time goes on
so almost everyone is a billionaire
or millionare
so basically you can have a work on everything?
yes
what other questions do you have
exactly
it's just a matter of people agreeing
and being civilized
and i know that contradicts anarchism
but ancap is a very unusual form of anarchy
any more questions?
@I enjoy solid colour hoodies Where r ΓΊ from? The ancap movement is growing up fast in my country
@I enjoy solid colour hoodies how would roads work
anarchism is even dumber than communism
what kind of braindead idiot thinks anarchism is a good idea
πππππ
the further left, the lower the IQ
lefties usually have good intentions
so do the retarded
lol
downies are some of the softest nicestpeople I know
but... you don't want them in charge
if this latest clusterfuck with the CV bill doesn't show lefties how retarded Democrats are, nothing will
they're truly hopeless