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2018-05-18 21:26:06 UTC  

also wtf is Anacrho-Marxism?

2018-05-18 21:27:20 UTC  

Anarchy is merely a tool for those willing enough to use it, to take power for themselves.

2018-05-18 21:29:50 UTC  

besides they weren't socialist they sold off a large chunk of they're state industry to capitalists

2018-05-18 21:30:23 UTC  

Correct, which is why Hitler should have been replaced in the early stages.

2018-05-18 21:30:42 UTC  

You said up in chat that Hitler was a socialist

2018-05-18 21:30:56 UTC  

He was, but not far enough

2018-05-18 21:31:03 UTC  

wtf

2018-05-18 21:31:13 UTC  

State industry is part of socialism

2018-05-18 21:31:21 UTC  

private industry would be abolished

2018-05-18 21:31:30 UTC  

Next time it will be ten times more National, and ten times more Social

2018-05-18 21:31:49 UTC  

Next time, it will be National Stalinism.

2018-05-18 21:31:52 UTC  

Esoteric Juche

2018-05-18 21:32:01 UTC  

For Germanic ethnicities within Central Europe

2018-05-18 21:36:07 UTC  

You don't understand what national socialism is. You think national socialism is nationalism + socialism, but if we are to take Nazi Germany as the prime example of what national socialism is, we realise that this is not that case. Socialism is very much against privitizing industry, the Nazis however privitised much of the industry, menaing it wasn't at all socialist. It's not even comparable to the NEP or New Democracy, as those were small privitizatioon measures after much of everything was nationalized, unlike in Hitlers Germany which had majority private industry and very loose restraints on the capitalists. Also Hitlers Germany was right wing nationalist, which is anti marxist, unlike vietnam which was left wing nationalist. Right wing nationalism seeks to conquer while left wing nationalism is about national liberation

2018-05-18 21:36:56 UTC  

Correct, which is why the ideal course of things would have seen Hitler replaced with someone who would not stray from the original doctrine, Goebbels for instance.

2018-05-18 21:37:16 UTC  

Then why did you say Hitler was a Socialist?

2018-05-18 21:37:19 UTC  

He was

2018-05-18 21:37:29 UTC  

Be a Strasserist lol

2018-05-18 21:37:35 UTC  

He trusted the bourgeois class to much

2018-05-18 21:37:40 UTC  

That is why Germany lost the war

2018-05-18 21:37:51 UTC  

That is why Stalin won

2018-05-18 21:38:28 UTC  

What exactly was the original doctrine then?

2018-05-18 21:38:37 UTC  

wait if Hitler was a socialist then why did he side with fascist Italy and imperial Japan?

2018-05-18 21:39:24 UTC  

Geopolitical convenience

2018-05-18 21:39:33 UTC  

Why did he attack the USSR?

2018-05-18 21:39:39 UTC  

As I said, WW2 was not ideological in the slightest

2018-05-18 21:39:41 UTC  

Romania

2018-05-18 21:40:00 UTC  

It was simply the continuation of European geopolitics

2018-05-18 21:40:14 UTC  

As WW3, WW4, WW5, etc etc, will be the continuation of European geopolitics

2018-05-18 21:40:23 UTC  

but you said this wasn't ideological

2018-05-18 21:40:37 UTC  

Ideologies are leveraged to lay down common doctrine, to rally support from populations, but Warfare is about geopolitics

2018-05-18 21:40:54 UTC  

The ideology is the foundation from which an imperialist nation can expand

2018-05-18 21:42:07 UTC  

no it was about lebensraum

2018-05-18 21:42:31 UTC  

Which is the continuation of German geopolitics

2018-05-18 21:42:42 UTC  

Ever since the Germanic tribal confederations existed, there were wars for Lebensraum

2018-05-18 21:42:48 UTC  

Which was 3.000 years ago.

2018-05-18 21:42:59 UTC  

no its the expansion of living space for the germans to expand they're empire

2018-05-18 21:43:12 UTC  

Yes, this has been a thing for thousands of years

2018-05-18 21:43:20 UTC  

Slavs used to occupy up to the Elbe river

2018-05-18 21:43:28 UTC  

They kind of do now, again, because of WW2

2018-05-18 21:45:13 UTC  

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