Message from @Egoy
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did you know that workers are actually more incentivised under socialism than capitalism?
this again is directly related to the theory of socially necessary labour time
Yeah explain that. You get snlt and it's like a currency?
it's a false narrative that the profit motive is what defined capitalism, under a capitalist system the profit motive only benefits the bourgeois and not the workers
Well
socially necessary labour time is the amount of labour (in labour hours) a worker puts into his work
I thought this version of socialism only applied to education and medicine. How do you rope workers into it?
no, wtf
education and medicine are just examples
under socialism
I think your on the wrong page, my friend
Yeah I don't get it. Is it like social security?
Are all snlt equal? If you are a janitor or a high level official?
no obviously, it depends on their profession
but the snlt is only temporary
under socialism we would have achieved post scarcity
so there's no need for wage labour or wages or money in general
Can we ever erradicate scarcity though. Isn't it just relative. You'd think the USA was full of people at the poverty line. But that line is always adjusting itself
Those poor people all have iPhones, clean water, flat screen TVs
eradicate scarcity? Yes, in a few centuries to thousands of years, depending on the rythhemic system of innovation. How many people in the USA are homeless, unemployed, can't afford education or healthcare again?
What kind of bullshit is that
post scarcity is a actual theory, check it out. It's not currently possible at our present timescale of course, that's why I said centuries to thousands of years
There will always be those type of people. The US Military, only allows someone to join if they have an ASVAB score above 85
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If your ASVAB score falls below that, not only is there no position they can use you in, but in all likelihood you would cause more problems than help
uh okay
so what does it have to do with this?
And keep in mind, this is one of the most extensive human efforts achieved to determine how to keep the ranks full
For times of war that could determine the outcome of whether the nation lives and dies
look, I don't understand why your linking irrelevant points to this.
10% of the population falls below this ASVAB score. There will always be homeless people and uneducated people, and people who we just don't know what to do with
And giving them money does not solve the issue.
socialism isn't free money, LOL
Or giving them an equal share and telling them to work for snlt does not solve it
They will actively make anything they touch worse. Actually they can be quite industrious.
But industriously stupid
how do we know that percentages if they haven't even been educated? That's why I advocate for universal free/heavily subsidised education, socialism isn't free money, and never will.
money isn't a thing in socialism anyway
You can't just educate everyone to the same status
@Leiro レイロ how well the medicine industry and education do under capitalism?