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It isn't like the people of Brazil don't know who Bolsonaro is
It is why they voted for him
democracy in your context could not care about outcomes.
again with the contextual example I used
That is democracy in any context.
It is what the definition is
The will of the people
the will of the people does not account for outcomes lol
but obviously, we have some ounce of rationality in our society even with uneducateds in it, so that isn't happening
That isn't democracy then
Democracy includes the uneducated
Pure democracy is dangerous, right? Why not let the smartest people in a Gaussian distribution make the decisions.
2 standard deviations above the rest only
IQ doesn't inherently make people decent human beings
That's dangerous too, but a better alternative
No, it doesn't. But you don't want the decision makers to be too morally inflated.
I dunno where to find a balance. Probably the way the US does it, we have a good balance of cold hard truth and coddling ourselves like infants
The US is far from a democracy
I never said it was
They do a good job balancing the duality though. Seems like the power shifts every election cycle between what's expediently moral, and hard truths that need to be discussed in order to get desired outcomes in the long run
And not much gets done
I don't think they are that powerful. Not unless you listen to the recent far left media portrayals. Ben Sasse from Nebraska does a good job summing up why it seems that way
He spoke a bit during the kavanagh ford inquiry
The courts can block anything they want
Individual federal judges can block executive orders
Whoever controls scotus controls everything
And legislative laws can be vetoed
It's all as designed. Nothing has changed
Progress should be slow and arduous. The best way to keep people happy. Is no one should get 100% their way
Fastest way to corruption and the rule of money
Executive orders should be constrained though
Corruption occurs in any hierarchy. And hierarchies are inevitable no matter how the cards are dealt
Well, socialism is the purest form of democracy to an extent
because the people collectively make the decisions, unlike in businesses today where workplace democracy isn't that much widespread or influential anyway
Yeah, but the default human condition isn't to necessarily want to be educated and knowledgeable about how to effectively participate in a democracy. Some people just content being dumb. If anything that's a preferable form of existence. When I see ads telling people to go out and blindly vote, I always smh
If you need to be told and guilted to go out and vote, I don't think you've spent enough time mulling over the information needed to make a sound decision.
socialism is not the 'purest democracy'. referendums are 'pure democracy', socialism doesn't have to be involved. That said, pure democracies generally are fucking terrible just like socialism.
Letting people on the higher end of the scale make all the choices leads back to the Nobility issue WW1 had.
Just because you're smart doesn't mean you have the best interest of the people at hand.
And when you're too much of an ideologue without skills you end up creating a nightmare for the people.