that's a naive view even the economists don't fully know the repercussions

that's why I said look at what it actually does

okay people im open minded tell me where i went wrong
if im wrong ill admit it

maybe i am looking at it through this basis view

Your not

Its a huge complex system of how many people are in the states, how high are the taxes, what laws and buildings and power electricity ect. Factors into the minimum wage, its not as simple as "oh this one state has minimum wage, why not make ours 15$ an hour!!!"

the supply of jobs is limited and so is the worker pool for starters

Keep in mind starting a buisiness cannot be the same in different states

so everyone isn't going to quit their job to work at mcdonalds

I did

sure, if they are getting paid more than 15 dollars

And got a job at praxair

yeah so the point is there's a billion variables at play and you gave one

you're ignoring the unemployed being given much larger incentive

i gave a pretty legitimate example

you're ignoring all that money going back into the economy because the poor live paycheck to paycheck

yeah but you have blinders on and aren't looking at the bigger picture

So lower more government funded programs and lower the taxes

Or better yet

im asking for you to paint that bigger picture

DEPART ILLEGALS

Or cut back a lil on military spending

there isn't a way to raise it and have everything a perfect utopian dream the point is improving the lives of the lowest wage earners at the minor expense of businesses having to navigate a new system

it's a tradeoff that's why I asked why you even want a minimum wage

you could go full libertarian and pay people $2/hour

the point is the minimum is there for good reason and you're basically arguing against that

i did say i was for a minimum wage i just dont think it should be a livable wage

because the minimum is too low for people to live and too high for stupid businesses that would exist if it were $1/hour minimum

don't you care about my sweatshop that pays $1/hour because I can't even start it

speaking of... plenty of places pay less than the minimum as it is go find a mexican without paperwork

Isnt that what trump was preaching when he said illegals are taking the jobs of Americans

yeah but it's worse because he's talking H1-B hiring people from every country on earth but america

most of them send money home to their families it's fucked

so yeah trump is 100% right

anyway I don't want to go on about a fucking wage just consider what I'm sayin there's a lot to that story you don't have to go full $40 minimum and become a vegan feminist

god i hate trump

i cant wait till bernie gets elected

shut your whore mouth

i just love bernie

well yea im not an economist or ever claimed to be one, im just looking at cause and effect. How i see it, you're forcing businesses to pay employees 15 dollars more eliminating the competition for crappy but essential jobs. Which I think is what the whole philosophy of capitalism that the world cant run without competition. I think a good example of that would be UPS before fedex. UPS absolutely sucked until FedEx came along and provided competition causing UPS to step up their game

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