Message from @lima429

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2020-03-11 19:27:49 UTC  

I’ve actually seen people at S4P saying they’ll vote Trump just because fuck it.

2020-03-11 19:28:06 UTC  

please do

2020-03-11 19:29:58 UTC  

can't wait for biden trump debate in the future

2020-03-11 19:30:05 UTC  

we'll never be vetted lel

2020-03-11 19:30:07 UTC  

i sometimes think this could be the funniest election cycle we've ever had. trump might be the funniest pres we've had. hes going to destroy joe

2020-03-11 19:30:11 UTC  

@saturn broker isn't the wall a government expenditure

2020-03-11 19:30:30 UTC  

yes but its not socialism.

2020-03-11 19:30:36 UTC  

Joe is going to call Trump fat on live tv lol

2020-03-11 19:30:39 UTC  

Neither is m4a

2020-03-11 19:30:59 UTC  

But his workplace democracy laws are

2020-03-11 19:31:00 UTC  

Border security is a legitimate function of the federal government

2020-03-11 19:31:15 UTC  

So is the health of the people

2020-03-11 19:31:28 UTC  

biden will legitimately be steam rollde

2020-03-11 19:31:33 UTC  

Good

2020-03-11 19:31:46 UTC  

Sure

2020-03-11 19:32:34 UTC  

trump better win i have lots of salt to harvest

2020-03-11 19:32:36 UTC  

Well workplace democracy on its own isn’t socialism. If that’s what you’re implying

2020-03-11 19:33:45 UTC  

Workers control of the MoP

2020-03-11 19:34:11 UTC  

The solid definition of socialism is really vague but that tracks to me

2020-03-11 19:35:15 UTC  

thats because socialism is vague. its an empty term in general.

2020-03-11 19:36:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665554472906391583/687383376885317666/1583890179124.png

2020-03-11 19:36:22 UTC  

The best definition I have is that it's when control or ownership of the means of production is in some fashion redistributed to the workers or public

2020-03-11 19:37:53 UTC  

when people say redistributed to the public, that typically means it becomes a public good. in other words, owned by the government in some way. if the workers actually owned part of a company, then it would just be equity.

2020-03-11 19:38:13 UTC  

You're describing state socialism

2020-03-11 19:38:29 UTC  

Democratic socialism is large-scale equity

2020-03-11 19:40:58 UTC  

Can't wait to see Bernie and Biden speak demented gibberish in their 1-on-1 "debate"

2020-03-11 19:41:10 UTC  

Businesses and industries owned by the state or with cooperatives is socialism

2020-03-11 19:41:32 UTC  

Bernie is coherent, Biden isn't

2020-03-11 19:41:49 UTC  

its still a completely empty way to phrase it. the democratic peoples republic of korea is hardly democratic.

2020-03-11 19:41:58 UTC  

Bernie can hardly maintain a single train of thought

2020-03-11 19:42:11 UTC  

Yeah, I don't know what point you're making with that though @saturn broker

2020-03-11 19:42:19 UTC  

Plus he think it's a sin to be white.

2020-03-11 19:42:20 UTC  

you know the mods are not going to let you stay here with a name like that

2020-03-11 19:42:29 UTC  

@I-Hate-black-people nice strawman

2020-03-11 19:42:36 UTC  

Ugh. How do I change it?

2020-03-11 19:42:51 UTC  

I hate black culture

2020-03-11 19:42:51 UTC  

@LC isn't your pfp the patriot front

2020-03-11 19:43:07 UTC  

Or some equivalent org

2020-03-11 19:43:09 UTC  

i don't know what "patriot front" means

2020-03-11 19:43:12 UTC  

I'm not racist, but Valid you get my point.

2020-03-11 19:43:29 UTC  

They commit 50% of all crimes in the US