You're pushing for serfdom and you're too stupid to realize it.

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Innovation is led by greed. These modern medicinal solutions are led by investments, by the risk for profit.

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Innovation is also led by Public grant money

Imma go finish watching dateline (I know I know it’s NBC but I like listening to the mysteries) so later gators

well when you take away a person's freedom of choice, they're indentured servants
when you force doctors to either work for the state or starve, they're indentured servants
when you force people to get their bread from government, you make them indentured servants

if we could program machines to provide health care, then I could see a push for more of a baseline level of care provided, but it wouldn't have to be the government.

The only part of healthcare that is abolished is private insurance, the only difference is with m4a the government pays the bill

I've already heard this argument a million times

and who pays the government tho

The government doesn't invade and take over the hospitals

“Government”

Man you are one vile piece of shit. Just taking in everything you're staying

how is he vile in any way chieftain

Yes. The government pays the bill
the government sets the rules
the government sets the prices
the government runs your life

But the government does invade and take over my money

Seems an unfair accusation to me

@LC the government does indeed govern, and they won't stop anytime soon

I'll keep my freedom to do business with who I choose, and at what price I choose, thanks.

How come the government taking like 20% of your check is theft when your company taking 98% of your profits isn't

Most people would save money in m4a

no company has ever taken "98% of my profits"

The government has one essential role, which is the protection from other nations from invading or controlling our nation.

The company pays you in return for your work

@Cringing what's the root word in the word government

@dairypillows pays peanuts, especially compared to the big man on top

you're fucking retarded.

@CthulhuOnIce have you ever taken an accounting class?

When I go to work for a company, I negotiate how much MY labor per hour is worth, and agree to that.

"negotiate"

yes negotiate lol

If you've never negotiated during a job interview, you're a fucking moron.

"you'll work for us at this rate or lose your healthcare and die"

Have you ever actually applied and gotten a job @CthulhuOnIce

@dairypillows yeah?

so all the people without healthcare before obamacare were dead

I’m more of an absolute anarchy person myself

Fuck Obamacare lol

@CthulhuOnIce and did you negotiate your pay?

Sure, but I work for a small business.

I support and like small business.