Message from @CthulhuOnIce
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Wrong
I know you tards like to call it "social ownership," but "social" is government.
It requires no more government than any other law
Democratic Socialism is communism. Change my mind
social ownership doesnt mean you get to own or have a say in how anything works. its just verbal sleight of hand.
FALSE
Man it’s strange watching this debate. Been a long time since I’ve actually been privy to a leftist debating in real time
Stop pretending you with your elementary level definition of socialism know more about what constitutes my own ideology than I do
anyone watching the live stream of Trump meeting the bankers?
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Socialism ABSOLUTELY requires dramatic expansion of government power, and subsequently a reduction in YOUR civil rights, SPECIFICALLY the ownership of private property.
You can argue that socialism always results is government control, but socialism itself is not necessarily government control
I blame all eu issues cos of Germany <:TrumpDisgust:624681485525319681> @Ostland
yes it is necessarily government action, control, force, implementation
@dairypillows is there a government in democratic socialism?
Every SINGLE time socialism has been tried (over 100 times) it has resulted in a tyranny and failed.
Tbf ur ideology is based on the elementary understanding of a fake idea of “socialism” being propagated by people with a giant platform like Bernie Sanders and AOC
@LC Germany, the UK, Sweden, etc. All fit the actual definition of socialism
Those are capitalist countries, you massive walnut
@Doc Jinzo, PhD in Trap Negation propagated by *checks notes* the dictionary
@LC
the people democratically control the means of production
Which is socialism
Read up on codetermination laws
False
Each one of those countries allows private business ownership
@Pytokonda 🐏 <:obamaprism:647952829125885962>
"False, my daddy told me socialistsm is the evil gubmint comin to take my shotgun an my beer and I won't be told otherwise"
They do have lots of socialistic policies though. None that I agree with obviously
“a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state”
From the Miriam Webster dictionary
Not the people. The *state*
The idea of “democratic” socialism is fake
Ad hominem is not a valid argument, and is also an indicator that you have none.
not all authoritarian policies are socialist. but all of socialist ideology relies on authoritarianism.
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole
"social organization" and "community" means GOVERNMENT.
Serious question: Do you have a learning disability?
lmao at the Liberals that are blaming Trump for the stock market rn
Community means community dipshit
"this word actually mean other word"
and the community gets together and decides shit by means of a......?
youre a troll lmao you cant define anything youre saying or do anything than assert surface level fuckery
Co-operative workplace @LC
Magic wizard?
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But that’s communism tho.
Commune, community, etc etc it’s in the etymology