Remember, if you ever feel bad or are discouraged, just wip out any dollar bill and read one of the most beautiful lines this country has:

**IN GOD WE TRUST**

Have a good day and God Bless America!

And no, consumerism isn't a false word. It's pretty obvious that today's world is controlled by exacerbated materialism. In the 50s, the consumer attitude was much more moderate, consumer spending was much lower. Yet, people lived happier and more fulfilling lives.

And anti-consumerism isn't communistic either, that just shows your lack of understanding about economic systems.

i think how much you consume is just a function of your income anyway. if i make 500k/year im buying more stuff than at 50k/yr

Exactly, that's fine. But people are so controlled by brain chemistry that they end up wasting their incomes away on trivial material. Soyboys obsess over the Nintendo Switch, Funko Pops and other gay shit.

I dont get what point you're trying to argue.

You lose me at the consumerism argument, there's pros and cons to consumerism and that point has never been a defining factor of conservatism nor neoconservativism. While Edmund Burke was pretty particular on a lot of things especially the rallying ideas built upon by traditional Judeo-Christian values, the anti-consumerism sentiment has been largely absent from conservatism since it's conception.

Consumerism is bad because of peoples bad decisions?

consumer spending was probably lower in the 50s because they had way less stuff to buy

Does it cause excess monopolization of industry?

Damn yall typing dissertations or something?

what even is consumerism

promoting interests of consumers

so catering to customers lol

@Fawx >judeo
That's because consumerism didn't exist in Burke's time, yet he was still an avid believer in fundamental Christian values. One the seven deadly sins explicitly argues against an excess indulgence in wealth, items, or foods. I would argue that Burke would not support today's consumerist culture.

@Jensen https://gyazo.com/e7f97f14d5a05027309a454a34c8530f

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isn't that just a result of globalization

Ill just copy paste\ Consumerism
DescriptionConsumerism is a social and economic order that encourages an acquisition of goods and services in ever-increasing amounts. Wikipedia

Basically supply and demand.

higher GDP > more people with stuff to buy > more producers > more transactions of goods/services

Not at all @Dan🦀. "Ever-increasing amounts" is pretty indicative of what consumerism entails.

@christiam its a wiki definition

Copy and pasted

The definition is correct, your analysis of it is wrong.

How is not supply and demand.

@christiam >A very large portion Christian values stem from Judean values
You're arguing that the mere act of owning large sums of money is immoral and frankly to me that sounds like a progressive viewpoint much more than a conservative viewpoint; it's what the communists/socialists base a large portion of their moral model upon.

It's not about owning large sums of money, it's about needlessly spending all of your available income on useless products.

Well what can be done about that lol. Take away buisness?\

No, but you could promote Christian morality.

didnt adam smith talk about consumer education at some point? 🤔

You're arguing from a point of opinion on something that cant be controlled by anyone.

ChrisTiam is a communist, here to spread anti-materialist theory.

Stop hindering discussion @D3plor4ble

He's as entitled to a view point as we are

You have no clue what you're talking about. @D3plor4ble

Christiam reported to mods for spreading communist theory

i sincerely have a hard time believing anyone is truly a communist in 2020.

@christiam why should someone be barred from needlessly wasting money? It's theirs to own, it's not the government's, nor is it the people's

You're the same type of person to call Hitler or Mussolini a communist. Historically unfounded. @D3plor4ble

They only identify as such because they ignore nearly a century of history