Message from @provolone

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2020-03-23 03:55:50 UTC  

America isn't necessarily open about it, but we have the developed infrastructure to spy on millions of people.

2020-03-23 03:56:21 UTC  

Instead of spying on criminals, corporate leaders and degenerate celebrities, we spy on the average Joe.

2020-03-23 04:03:57 UTC  

Wrong question. How great would the US be if decentralization was more of a thing? How great would it be if states could go their own way to an even greater extent?

2020-03-23 04:05:00 UTC  

Also Lincoln on central banking and paper money, poor record there

2020-03-23 04:05:27 UTC  

but then, nothing is a purely black and white issue...

2020-03-23 04:05:56 UTC  

If Lincoln allowed more decentralization under the context of a succeeding south, the only next possible step would the dissolution of the union.

2020-03-23 04:07:59 UTC  

FWIW, I'm more of a fan of the original articles of confederation circa 1781

2020-03-23 04:08:21 UTC  

but it is all water under the bridge at this point

2020-03-23 04:08:49 UTC  

Which would've given the states nearly complete control, pulling apart our country in a pluralistic mess of 13 differing interests.

2020-03-23 04:09:22 UTC  

Keeping government small or nonexistant on the national level

2020-03-23 04:09:47 UTC  

if you don't like the state gov, then easier to vote with your feet

2020-03-23 04:10:19 UTC  

A non-existent federal govt.? Ah yes, I suppose the states would voluntary stay in an arbitrary union.

2020-03-23 04:11:57 UTC  

have you ever read mises.org ?

2020-03-23 04:13:12 UTC  

I don't listen to libertarian news, and I'm sure that if I did, I wouldn't be converted. I'm already too opinionated.

2020-03-23 04:13:38 UTC  

https://thedonald.win/p/FMEqxCM5/the-democrats-just-blocked-a-bil/

2020-03-23 04:13:42 UTC  

There's good and bad

2020-03-23 04:14:22 UTC  

What I will say about libertarians is that I respect their independence. They don't care about political normalcy, and they don't sacrifice on their beliefs.

2020-03-23 04:14:44 UTC  

I don't like the excessive idealism in the face of realpolitik, sometimes they make the perfect the enemy of the good

2020-03-23 04:15:49 UTC  

I'd like to see how some of these ivory tower academics would perform if they were in the game. It is like a sports commentator saying 'what he would do', but he's not in the game and will never play pro

2020-03-23 04:16:34 UTC  

yup^

2020-03-23 04:16:37 UTC  

Politics is what it is, we have to deal with it either incrementally or however we can

2020-03-23 04:16:50 UTC  

human action is a dope book

2020-03-23 04:19:28 UTC  

Most regimes and governments who've used realpolitik were statist tbh.

2020-03-23 04:21:36 UTC  

Regardless, idealism is all libertarians have. That's not a bad thing, but libertarians aren't really pragmatists.

2020-03-23 04:22:28 UTC  

They'll never sacrifice libertarianism even in the face of their worst enemies. Foreign invasion? We can't direct industries to produce war material!

2020-03-23 04:24:05 UTC  

What happened to the reddit sub? Is it dead? I see no new posts.

2020-03-23 04:24:58 UTC  

Yes, it got restricted by T_D mods. They wanted to use The_Donald to promote thedonald.win

2020-03-23 04:25:44 UTC  

They basically forced T_D to migrate at a quicker rate. Plus, now T_D on Reddit can't be banned, and anyone who sees the subreddit is more likely to go on thedonald.win

2020-03-23 04:27:31 UTC  

hope it works out

2020-03-23 04:44:14 UTC  

I just say that there's no acknowledgement of realpolitik from the libertarian academics, so there's no actual action towards the stated goals

2020-03-23 04:45:40 UTC  

although I agree with almost all of it in principle, at the end of the day if they don't vote because they don't agree with democracy (only private property) the end result is more politicians who want to ban guns

2020-03-23 04:46:26 UTC  

and when guns are confiscated things will be very different in regards to the private property rights that remain

2020-03-23 04:55:03 UTC  

I love trum

2020-03-23 04:55:09 UTC  

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2020-03-23 04:55:22 UTC  

hey

2020-03-23 04:55:26 UTC  

hi

2020-03-23 04:55:32 UTC  

waa

2020-03-23 04:55:41 UTC  

hi bitches

2020-03-23 04:55:51 UTC  

hello trumplets

2020-03-23 04:56:15 UTC  

@AdolfHitler ur the server owner right??