Message from @provolone

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2020-03-23 03:39:01 UTC  

that's kind of gay though

2020-03-23 03:39:41 UTC  

sorry. woman tits

2020-03-23 03:39:47 UTC  

I want to touch donald trumps man titties

2020-03-23 03:40:00 UTC  

he had a voluptuous set of jugs

2020-03-23 03:40:03 UTC  

So my ultimate point is, political corruption bad. Trust busting was needed, the political bosses of the 20th century deserved punishment.

2020-03-23 03:41:03 UTC  

i'm curious to eventually read some of the criticisms news outlets back in the day printed on our greatest presidents

2020-03-23 03:41:26 UTC  

see how it lines up with todays headlines

2020-03-23 03:44:26 UTC  

I know Lincoln was so hated there were near riots when he campaigned

2020-03-23 03:51:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665554472906391583/691494250566647839/iqu5fsqlw5o41.png

2020-03-23 03:52:24 UTC  

we love our cops, our law enforcement

2020-03-23 03:52:30 UTC  

There are retards, some in this server, who believe Lincoln was a tyrant. My question for those: How great would America be if our union dissolved?

2020-03-23 03:52:54 UTC  

lolbertarians are kinda right about the police honestly though

2020-03-23 03:53:40 UTC  

I mean we already have numerous neoliberal police states, we might as well repurpose them to fit a more nationalistic goal.

2020-03-23 03:55:50 UTC  

America isn't necessarily open about it, but we have the developed infrastructure to spy on millions of people.

2020-03-23 03:56:21 UTC  

Instead of spying on criminals, corporate leaders and degenerate celebrities, we spy on the average Joe.

2020-03-23 04:03:57 UTC  

Wrong question. How great would the US be if decentralization was more of a thing? How great would it be if states could go their own way to an even greater extent?

2020-03-23 04:05:00 UTC  

Also Lincoln on central banking and paper money, poor record there

2020-03-23 04:05:27 UTC  

but then, nothing is a purely black and white issue...

2020-03-23 04:05:56 UTC  

If Lincoln allowed more decentralization under the context of a succeeding south, the only next possible step would the dissolution of the union.

2020-03-23 04:07:59 UTC  

FWIW, I'm more of a fan of the original articles of confederation circa 1781

2020-03-23 04:08:21 UTC  

but it is all water under the bridge at this point

2020-03-23 04:08:49 UTC  

Which would've given the states nearly complete control, pulling apart our country in a pluralistic mess of 13 differing interests.

2020-03-23 04:09:22 UTC  

Keeping government small or nonexistant on the national level

2020-03-23 04:09:47 UTC  

if you don't like the state gov, then easier to vote with your feet

2020-03-23 04:10:19 UTC  

A non-existent federal govt.? Ah yes, I suppose the states would voluntary stay in an arbitrary union.

2020-03-23 04:11:57 UTC  

have you ever read mises.org ?

2020-03-23 04:13:12 UTC  

I don't listen to libertarian news, and I'm sure that if I did, I wouldn't be converted. I'm already too opinionated.

2020-03-23 04:13:38 UTC  

https://thedonald.win/p/FMEqxCM5/the-democrats-just-blocked-a-bil/

2020-03-23 04:13:42 UTC  

There's good and bad

2020-03-23 04:14:22 UTC  

What I will say about libertarians is that I respect their independence. They don't care about political normalcy, and they don't sacrifice on their beliefs.

2020-03-23 04:14:44 UTC  

I don't like the excessive idealism in the face of realpolitik, sometimes they make the perfect the enemy of the good

2020-03-23 04:15:49 UTC  

I'd like to see how some of these ivory tower academics would perform if they were in the game. It is like a sports commentator saying 'what he would do', but he's not in the game and will never play pro

2020-03-23 04:16:34 UTC  

yup^

2020-03-23 04:16:37 UTC  

Politics is what it is, we have to deal with it either incrementally or however we can

2020-03-23 04:16:50 UTC  

human action is a dope book

2020-03-23 04:19:28 UTC  

Most regimes and governments who've used realpolitik were statist tbh.

2020-03-23 04:21:36 UTC  

Regardless, idealism is all libertarians have. That's not a bad thing, but libertarians aren't really pragmatists.

2020-03-23 04:22:28 UTC  

They'll never sacrifice libertarianism even in the face of their worst enemies. Foreign invasion? We can't direct industries to produce war material!

2020-03-23 04:24:05 UTC  

What happened to the reddit sub? Is it dead? I see no new posts.

2020-03-23 04:24:58 UTC  

Yes, it got restricted by T_D mods. They wanted to use The_Donald to promote thedonald.win

2020-03-23 04:25:44 UTC  

They basically forced T_D to migrate at a quicker rate. Plus, now T_D on Reddit can't be banned, and anyone who sees the subreddit is more likely to go on thedonald.win