Message from @rob

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2018-09-26 12:05:26 UTC  

Bolsheviks aren't worth the effort

2018-09-26 12:05:36 UTC  

Just kill em and get it done with

2018-09-26 12:05:44 UTC  

No extra fuss

2018-09-26 12:06:06 UTC  

@rob it serves a purpose, even if its just to let them feel they are a tiny bit better than them

2018-09-26 12:06:09 UTC  

I dunno, I feel like you guys are trolling and not even from SA, just here to mess around.

2018-09-26 12:06:30 UTC  

@Nidalap Rorrim I hear you, but I think you're right we're talking past each other

2018-09-26 12:06:40 UTC  

@rob yeah maybe hehe

2018-09-26 12:06:57 UTC  

I was concentrating on the emotional argument that grendal just clarified

2018-09-26 12:08:09 UTC  

and in the end @Cal said the actual issue is communists against property rights

2018-09-26 12:08:19 UTC  

which I'm 100% in agreement on

2018-09-26 12:08:33 UTC  

I'm South African

2018-09-26 12:08:36 UTC  

just that I want to make it about the issues and not Muh Joos

2018-09-26 12:09:11 UTC  

yeah sorry I got carried away with the whole Military angle and implications

2018-09-26 12:09:48 UTC  

I don't have the right experience to say, I just feel like underestimating the enemy is a very bad idea

2018-09-26 12:10:01 UTC  

yeah no I fully agree with you.

2018-09-26 12:10:15 UTC  

As I explained, I don't respect their right to life because they don't respect my right to property. Very simple to understand for anyone still unsure. If their life is at forfeit I personally deem it fine to demonize the opposition as much as I need

2018-09-26 12:10:23 UTC  

Not underestimate

2018-09-26 12:10:26 UTC  

Demonize

2018-09-26 12:10:32 UTC  

There's a difference

2018-09-26 12:11:00 UTC  

in a military viewpoint dehumanizing somebody is not underestimating them one bit

2018-09-26 12:11:16 UTC  

sure, my problem with demonize is that it puts you in an emotional state (maybe ok for fighting in the moment) - not great for most situations

2018-09-26 12:12:01 UTC  

even in a firefight(I imagine), a cool head is better than a hot head

2018-09-26 12:13:07 UTC  

you don't need super human adrenaline fueled strength to fire a gun and a cool head is probably more accurate

2018-09-26 12:13:37 UTC  

I'm not interested in losing to these communist bastards

2018-09-26 12:13:42 UTC  

think of it as a way to get the soldier to act. to oversimplify it again its a way to get the soldier to think he has a chance of winning in a engagement

2018-09-26 12:14:00 UTC  

It's more of a motivation thing tbh

2018-09-26 12:14:35 UTC  

A soldier who is told his wife will get raped by the ape he's fighting will fight harder

2018-09-26 12:14:47 UTC  

yeah

2018-09-26 12:15:06 UTC  

The bloodlust must be fostered

2018-09-26 12:15:13 UTC  

there are different ways to motivate (cue Mel Gibson Braveheart speech) you can inspire your side to great heights in a few different ways. Love and pride can be more effective than hate

2018-09-26 12:15:25 UTC  

Doubt

2018-09-26 12:15:59 UTC  

that's why armies have musicians and always have

2018-09-26 12:16:39 UTC  

sure in some circumstances. but what do you do if your population doesn't feel threatened because they don't see the big picture

2018-09-26 12:16:51 UTC  

the problem with your bloodlust is that the enemy just has to convince your army that they Are in fact human and then morale can drop

2018-09-26 12:18:14 UTC  

I don't want to scare people into fighting, I don't think we need those kinds of numbers

2018-09-26 12:18:14 UTC  

GG @rob, you just advanced to level 7!

2018-09-26 12:19:37 UTC  

yeah. I'm not justifying that way. Just playing devils advocate and explaining the reasoning behind doing it

2018-09-26 12:19:52 UTC  

right now, people are prepared to fight and die, for their families and their history and their friends. The videos I've seen of old farmers warning/threatening the ANC/EFF haven't been filled with hate

2018-09-26 12:19:54 UTC  

war is bad, nobody in their right mind would want it

2018-09-26 12:20:23 UTC  

because it looks like its the strategy being employed currently

2018-09-26 12:20:42 UTC  

the reasons that those men are prepared to take up arms isn't hatred of the ANC/EFF but a love of their civilization