Message from @Sheamus
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The conversions usually ends up with me trying to convince them to at least vote for somebody instead of not voting at all. I feel a no vote helps the ANC
1800 adults are a small research pool.
I think it does the opposite really. Their power and influences hinges on a voting majority that is dependent on them, its in their best interests to keep people dependent and invested in voting, because people not voting are pretty much independent and don't depend on the government. Would be awful for them if the majority One day decides they don't need the government, because they can do better for themselves. But yeah I don't see it as a bad thing to be honest.
the current voting majority wont turn against the party that freed them from Apartheid. will take a couple of generations more till something like that can happen in SA.
Apartheid is just an excuse, they clearly are very much comfortable with the idea of segregation and race based policies, the way they are currently going.
Read the updated response they got... The irony lol
yeah I agree but its still a very big factor in their voting decision
It's only optical, perception
Freedom isn't being in debt to a political party lol
If you don't have the freedom to vote according to what's right for you, and you have to vote out of fear and debt to another party, then you are no free man, political prisoners I guess?
All the racists on both sides needs to die of old age and maybe even their children before real change can happen without "war"
its going to take a long time
The way things are escalating, I don't think there's time to wait it out lol
trying to force change only delay's the process or create power vacuums. That's the last thing SA needs.
I don't suggest any force be applied really.. But force is being applied, that revolution is strongly desired, so they are pushing for it.
we are still in the aftershock period of when Apartheid was removed.
a non qualified/educated ANC took over the country almost over night
even if the ANC gets removed by revolution who do you think will govern SA ? Sure as hell wont be the DA
it will start all over again with a bunch of randoms in charge of running a country
so your saying a war is better than now where you are sitting with a roof over your head, food in the fringe, in front of your PC with internet.
no way in hell a revolution happens in SA without war
and all of the above disappear if war breaks out
for decades, no turning back
that's option A Option B is fighting the long game legally with international support
same way the ANC won
50 years ago ppl would think your crazy if you told them the ANC would rule one day
Yeah, and it's going to happen. Not because I want it to happen, but because reality just is what it is. I just have accepted that, I'm not living some delusion that I know what's best for everyone, and that there is some magical fix. So no I don't prefer this method of lawlessness and chaos, the total anarchy of a mob in search of justice and revenge.
but you are doing that exact thing lol
What am I doing lol
"I know what's best for everyone" so you want a revolution
Lol where the fck did I say I want a revolution?
I said the people want it, I'm not the people lol I'm not even speaking for them, I'm merely stating my observations lol
since when does a fringe small group of people represent everybody ?
do you see millions of ppl grabbing land ?
do you see millions of ppl at EFF rallies ?
do you see millions of ppl at BLF rallies ?
your talking social media as the "voice" of the ppl
Not referring to any specific political party, referring to an idea, communism and socialism and everyone that subscribes to those ideas.