Message from @tony1

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2019-11-14 22:04:19 UTC  

@Gerry At what age is a person ready to work and be productive in society?

2019-11-14 22:04:40 UTC  

18 if it’s a manual labor job

2019-11-14 22:05:01 UTC  

But it’s significantly higher if they want a higher education

2019-11-14 22:05:11 UTC  

@Gerry So it may take 18 years for an adult immigrant to start being productive in a nation's society?

2019-11-14 22:05:27 UTC  

not "productive"... assimilate to the culture

2019-11-14 22:05:36 UTC  

To give them the right values and beliefs

2019-11-14 22:05:39 UTC  

Perhaps

2019-11-14 22:06:06 UTC  

But then again an immigrant with a different skin tone will always stand out

2019-11-14 22:06:16 UTC  

No matter what

2019-11-14 22:06:20 UTC  

lots of immigrants self-segregate and have no intention on adapting to the values of the land they've escaped to

2019-11-14 22:06:35 UTC  

Yes that is true

2019-11-14 22:06:37 UTC  

it's innate to want to be with people you can more closely relate to

2019-11-14 22:08:17 UTC  

@Gerry But if it comes down to a question of productivity itself, how long do you think it would take for an adult immigrant to start being productive in a nation's society?

2019-11-14 22:09:09 UTC  

That depends on where they are from

2019-11-14 22:09:23 UTC  

nobody cares about productiveness if their ideologies will slowly erode away at the fabric of the nation's identity

2019-11-14 22:09:51 UTC  

If it’s a place with radically different religious views it will take an eternity

2019-11-14 22:10:29 UTC  

But let’s say they are from Poland

2019-11-14 22:10:31 UTC  

Then

2019-11-14 22:10:44 UTC  

also there can't be a metric for that for people who innately think they cannot assimilate because it would mean apotasy

2019-11-14 22:10:47 UTC  

It won’t take long

2019-11-14 22:11:14 UTC  

@Gerry How long, on average, would you say the average immigrant would take to get a job in a nation's society?

2019-11-14 22:11:25 UTC  

If you have a farm, having 9 kids could be productive

2019-11-14 22:11:34 UTC  

As I said it depends on where they are from

2019-11-14 22:11:37 UTC  

I don't know why you're focused on "getting a job" being the main focus of prosperity

2019-11-14 22:11:52 UTC  

Fuck

2019-11-14 22:11:58 UTC  

@Gerry Okay what if you only allowed immigration from certain countries in that case?

2019-11-14 22:11:59 UTC  

Like if they are from Poland

2019-11-14 22:12:04 UTC  

The;

2019-11-14 22:12:08 UTC  

Then*

2019-11-14 22:12:14 UTC  

so as not to erode constitutional values that make this country better than others in the first place

2019-11-14 22:12:18 UTC  

It should only take a few years

2019-11-14 22:12:28 UTC  

if it's not better than others then why would anyone want to immigrate here

2019-11-14 22:12:33 UTC  

@Gerry What if you only allowed immigration from countries you felt would assimilate well?

2019-11-14 22:12:48 UTC  

Yea as I said a few years

2019-11-14 22:12:56 UTC  

They need to learn the language

2019-11-14 22:12:58 UTC  

they come here for the free welfare

2019-11-14 22:13:12 UTC  

And they need to learn customs

2019-11-14 22:13:13 UTC  

err ting is free

2019-11-14 22:13:25 UTC  

mexicans destroyed california

2019-11-14 22:13:29 UTC  

They did

2019-11-14 22:13:29 UTC  

its now a wasteland