Message from @Paladin308
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Electric ignition
so it electronically unlocks the bolt from the chamber instead of using gas to do that
and then the bolt goes back under residual gas pressure
that might actually be a fair bit simpler
wouldnt be nearly as fiddly to design either since you arent trying to magic correct bolt-unlock timing out of gas pressure and mechanical know-how
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_firing
This is what I'm thinking.
If you want caseless memes, electronic firing makes sense and provides potential benefits despite making you need two types of "ammunition", the physical ammo and batteries.
So next step, then, was to go all electronic in the chambering process as well since you're using batteries anyway. That hybrid system you're proposing with an electronically unlocked bolt and residual gas pressure sounds even better, best of two worlds
God, the G11 was only in a hand full of games and most of them don't even seem good or are MP only.
and I wanted to use it in a game...
Fallout 2 has it, as well as a fictional Gatling in the same ammunition
Holds up better than Fallout 4 by today's standards
Electronic ignition is pretty simple, arguably more so than mechanical, and can be pretty effectively ruggedized, but electronic operation doesn't seem worthwhile IMO
ignition just needs contacts, close a circuit, send a pulse to the primer, done. Electronic operation would require servos or something equivalent to them, and it doesn't really add anything over gas operation
i think electrical locking would be very easy to achieve
you could recharge the system via a crank driven by the bolt as mentioned earlier
its potentially just a coil to shove the locking mechanism around
You could, but that's not what matters, what matters is why you would
easier, no need for a gas piston
no need for super finely toleranced systems designed to release the locking at the exact right time off of gas pressure alone
that take years to perfect
You're replacing one simple mechanical piece with several more complicated electromechanical assemblies
its maybe two moving parts
little locks on either side of the bolt that extend and retract
Modern gas operation systems do not require years to perfect, that work is already done
insofar as you arent making a new gun at that point
Why reinvent the wheel?
either there is a fair bit of fiddling to do as your particular gas system is refined
or its another ar-15 derivative
well because potentially it would be cheaper
to have something that doesnt need these super toleranced parts
even the g3 needs a huge amount of machine work to make it precisely enough for it to run right
Have you seen how cheap AR15s are now?
on the order of hundreds of bucks
The tight tolerances aren't in the gas system
They're in the locking system
Regardless of how you unlock and cycle the action, you still need those tight tolerances in the locking system
Fancy new systems don't make things cheap, economy of scale does
i mean thats kindof objectively not always true
computerized control has made a lot of things cheaper
It's true enough
because its way less effort to make it work right