the way i just said

everyone couldn't care less, and the left and the ones on the right concerned with identity politics took it over

they already had structure to use it as a marketing label

as i just said the alt right like many movments before it is people who all see a problem but all have their own interpritation for that problem and its gotten bad enough they feel a need to collectivize but wont form a direction until someone enough of them trust stands out. during that time it will cosntantly be influinced by the world around it, its been influinced so long ethnostatists are the growing majority when they were once a minority, a leader will likely form from that concoction

to be clear, I agree with what you said above

=p

it isn't and wasn't the majority, it just took over the label

i dont actually think styx is right that the alt right will implode, i think it will die and be born an ethnonationalist party, but i dont think that moment will be to weak to stand which he seems to though he doesent outright say it

i think thats a danger, it creates an envirnment very similar to pre nazi germany where the only partys at play are weak establisments and strong vicious extremists

(I'm at work, can't watch the video)
I would never support it, but think the _current_ "Alt Right"'s existence is needed for balance

they do have some valid points

i think anarcho communists have some valid points

i dont want either to be major partys

they are about to both be major partys

or atleast major social movements that influince what the big center think

>they are about to both be major partys
lolwut?

well yeah the alt right is big even if it loses 50% of its population it will still be a major influincer once it has direction

i dont think it will lose as many people as who dont actually support an ethnostate though because 1. name recognition and partasanship, and 2. lesser of 2 evils

if the left doubles down, people will

its been very clear to me recently just how little principles matter to people especially moderate people. look at the day of freedom when people who have a free speech event cant even back that up

ethnostate > communism

the alt right and antifa will sacrofice reason for their ideals, the liberalists will sacrofice ideals for reasons

just like I believe in the Free Market, but Nationalism and Protectionism become attractive compared to the left

i think in a war between extreme left and extreme right, right wins and we all lose

how far are you thinking about it?

it doesent need to go far, nazis and commies just killed eachother like thugs in the street before hitler was elected

that was bad enough

the right is well armed, it's a one sided battle

the most that means to me is they will have an easier time not that the result will be any better

the extreme right has no reason to go "full hitler"

even most people in the extreme right don't believe in that

@Arch-Fiend "i think in a war between extreme left and extreme right, right wins and we all lose" - this is exactly what Noam Chomsky says.

as for antifa, they are brainwashed

Today's extreme left won't listen to Chomsky though, because he isn't a post-modernist.

Just quick question

What would it be like if people implemented spartan style law today?

give them a charismatic leader who brings out the inner desires of people then reinforces it in order to facilitate fanatisism and youll have full hitler. the people of the welmer republic didint want to gas the jews, take over europe, and live in an extremely regimented society, but eventually they did as he asked them what they wanted then told them what they wanted then culled them to the point they would die for him

Think it will give them the discipline to avoid extremesm?

i dont know much about spartan style law, im not that old

not to mention extreme is just another term for antiestablisment

antiestablishment can be very disciplined but just think the way things are is wrong. in order to keep extremism suppressed you need a world where people dont think the establisment is wrong