Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-05-24 14:58:40 UTC  

youtube will control veiws

2018-05-24 14:59:07 UTC  

when it controls veiws it controls your life on that platform unless you can sell something other than advertisment in ANY form

2018-05-24 14:59:48 UTC  

sponsers are a new advertisment that is all and its not exempt from this problem, it just has time before it optomises for it

2018-05-24 15:01:07 UTC  

the shit were seeing youtube implament right now is simply a slow form of shadow banning

2018-05-24 15:01:56 UTC  

even merch wont save you if youtube wont let anyone watch you to buy it

2018-05-24 15:01:56 UTC  

lets reiterate a problem. or parts of a problem:

1) alt websites get like no views. which means extra work, time taken away from making videos, for potential no return
2) youtube can control if you get money from ads
3) youtube can control how easy it is to find your video
4) having all your eggs in one basket is never a good idea
5) Revenue is a combination of views and ads
6) views is a combo of number of videos, and quality/content of the videos

miss any of the major points?

2018-05-24 15:03:33 UTC  

I had the idea a long time ago that would take power from youtube

2018-05-24 15:03:39 UTC  

you just need an aggregator

2018-05-24 15:03:45 UTC  

to replace their "subscription"

2018-05-24 15:03:54 UTC  

maybe a 7) alt websites will get more veiws when they have people others want to see there on their platform

2018-05-24 15:04:17 UTC  

there's no way to compete with youtube as a platform

2018-05-24 15:04:26 UTC  

but as they change the way people find videos

2018-05-24 15:04:33 UTC  

there is a need for an aggregator site

2018-05-24 15:04:50 UTC  

did you see the changes on the subscription box now?

2018-05-24 15:05:02 UTC  

i agree, i kinda think thats why the whole channal awesome thing wasent a bad idea in concept, just had shit people behind it

2018-05-24 15:05:05 UTC  

subscription box? time the proposed changes to the subfeed

2018-05-24 15:05:15 UTC  

(nvm, the video from h3h3 is above 😂 )

2018-05-24 15:05:20 UTC  

exactly

2018-05-24 15:05:27 UTC  

THis may have already said but I have seen a number of non-political/non-controversial You Tube posters (TheReportOfTheWeek who does mainly fast food restaurant reviews and Sailing SV Delos who do sailboating videos), also complain about the way that YT is going.

2018-05-24 15:05:28 UTC  

hence the conversation lmao

2018-05-24 15:05:51 UTC  

everyones complaining about youtube

2018-05-24 15:05:57 UTC  

everyone is complaining

2018-05-24 15:05:59 UTC  

bingo

2018-05-24 15:06:05 UTC  

@Chijohnaok youtube is screwing everyone, for reasons people can't figure out aside from political bias

2018-05-24 15:06:22 UTC  

the subs and bells are shit

2018-05-24 15:06:44 UTC  

the solution I'm doing is removing less relevant youtubers

2018-05-24 15:06:47 UTC  

@.B aggregator site?

2018-05-24 15:06:53 UTC  

because the ones I most watch are disappearing from my feed

2018-05-24 15:06:59 UTC  

Doing so would seem counterproductive to the long term well being of YT but they wouldn't be the first company to shoot themselves in the foot

2018-05-24 15:07:32 UTC  

honestly i havent had any problem with my subbox

2018-05-24 15:08:01 UTC  

i can't help but feel youtube is trying to tackle political problems and then getting everyone caught in their crossfire, leading to more problems.

2018-05-24 15:08:05 UTC  

i know some people talk about being unsubbed or not seeing videos in their sub (which i sometimes have seen with metokur videos)

2018-05-24 15:08:05 UTC  

@Grenade123 imagine I do I site where you can subscribe creators, and I show you your sub box. But when you watch the video it's on youtube, the site works just as an aggregator

2018-05-24 15:08:15 UTC  

but most of the time im not having any problems

2018-05-24 15:08:36 UTC  

@.B how does the aggregator site make money to keep itself online

2018-05-24 15:08:55 UTC  

content creators have to pay to use it

2018-05-24 15:09:06 UTC  

ads, an aggregator site is cheap to keep up anyway

2018-05-24 15:09:14 UTC  

or that

2018-05-24 15:09:41 UTC  

I'm going to Japan in 1 week. When I settle I might work on that

2018-05-24 15:09:59 UTC  

though i dont think it would be all that unatractive for content creators to pay a small amount to use it

2018-05-24 15:10:04 UTC  

Matt Drudge/Drudge Report is probably one of the "biggest" aggregators that I am aware of