well the romans and greeks invented academia

Mate the Greeks were doing that shit what's you point?

I know and the chruch preserved it.

and universities were heavly regulated by the church which underminded their actual use in for development until after the rennisance

which is why the rennisance is actually called the enlightenment

because the church actually suppressed education and distribution of information

which is why the printing press was fought agianst by the church

I know the church did some stupid shit but on the whole they did more to benefit the west then hurt it.

no they caused the dark ages

No they didn't the fall of the Roman empire caused the dark ages.

like sorry if you dont agree, your just ignorent if you dont accept these historical facts

@Arch-Fiend you are actually wrong

lets throw some bombs: without muslims there would be no going out from dark ages.... they preserved antic scriptures and were very inlightened to science... I regard contemporary era of muslimm religion in same way.... every religion evolve... now they are in that hold back grip

Like what, the Churches preserving and founding many schools of learning.

they are 500 - 600 years younger religion than ours

@athene To some extent that was true but it was more the persians than the arabs who preserved knowledge from Greece and Rome.

they had their own science also... we celebrate only greek and roman but those cultures are way younger than persian

to bad they destroy traces of it

True but the Greeks and Romans did more than the Persians. Fuck the Arabs for destorying what the Persians did.

anyway here my knowladge ends...persian arabs :/

i feel like the end of this video somes up my day of arguing with aussie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYExETbLL1E

man I like puffin forest

dude is pretty funny when he doesn't go nuts

The Arabs invaded Persia, forced Islam upon the Persians and tryed to distory all the pre Islamic stuff the Persians had done.

go nuts?

i think when he goes nuts its pretty funny to, i think?

i think he has my same reaction to people being confadently stupid

Yes I do.

I'm only human.

aussie go outside

I have been outside.

your not yourself when you havent had enough vitamin d

Lad I get enough vitamin d.

something makes me doubt that

did anybody watched sargon's interwiew yesterday with JKM?

i dont really watch sargon anymore

^

Sometimes if I'm really bored I'll watch.

I don't have the patience to watch civic nationalist/atomized individualism stuff, was it that kind of stuff?

this one was fun .. but you must be very patient with that guy accent