you mean averages correct? and you messuring phenotypical and psychological traits there. are those the only traits?

There are physical differences to.

phenotype is a scientific term for physical traits

My bad.

@Arch-Fiend I sure am. New enough to know that y'all are dumb.

we do this shit all the time

I noticed.

anyway aussie if phenotypical differences define race, and psychological differences define race, on averages within populations then couldent i just take any population on earth, then messure its phenotypical differences against those of any other group and extrapolate race from them? and if not why?

I know there are phenotypical differences but phenotype isn't race it tends to be more ethnic than racial.

ethnicity is defined as the following An ethnic group, or an ethnicity, is a category of people who identify with each other based on similarities such as common ancestry, language, history, society, culture or nation.[1][2] Ethnicity is usually an inherited status based on the society in which one lives. Membership of an ethnic group tends to be defined by a shared cultural heritage, ancestry, origin myth, history, homeland, language or dialect, symbolic systems such as religion, mythology and ritual, cuisine, dressing style, art, and physical appearance.

sounds a shit ton like race dont it?

you realize that bone shape and brain size are phenotypical and thats how you were defining race earlier right?

I mean biologicaly speaking. For example the differant European phenotypes are mostly on ethnic lines.

no they arnt, ethnicity isint scientific

its not biologic

I gess we will have to disagree.

nigga this is how things are actually defined

if you dont like it maybe YOUR not a race realist

facts dont care about your feelings

I am a race realist which is why I think ethnicity is different to race.

what would you call a race realist thats only that because its "cool". like trans-trender

ethnicity isint a scientific definition

its a social construct

Ok then phenotypes are not races if you profer.

ethnicity is as scientific as patrearchy

nigga phenotypes ARE races

thats what im trying to tell you

ethnicity is just how people define themselves

its like religion

Humans are a patriarchal species.

*faceplam*

Can you give me some evidence to prove what you are saying.

this is reminding me of when i was in an ancap server

think once in a while aussie, sometimes its better than feeling like you know everything

ill leave you with that

So you claim ethnicity isn't biological and race is based on phenotypes not speciation and don't provide any evidce to back up those claims so why shouuld I believe what yo are saying?

I don't claim to know everything your making a claim, why won't you prove it if you are right?

"the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition."

no where in there does it say biological. you are making the extraordinary claim here.