Message from @Blackhawk342
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colonization and displacement is genocide my nigga
They died out no human population can survive with only 400 people.
not to mention my country did the intentional genocide too
[7:22 AM] Aktricast: hey aussie can you define "white genocide" for me?
So the natives genocided the natives. Why are you biching about American doing soming the natives did to eachother?
actually scientists beleive that the ashkanazi jewish population of europe began with only 400 population that fleed into europe from jaerusalem
Here is the UN Definition of genocide. Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
White genocide is that to white populations.
im bitching about scale and also when natives war with natives and potentally cause genocide they are doing it to populations they have such a close relation to that their biology is still adapted to that envirnment and they maintain a genetic connection to the territory while when europeans do that shit, they dont
If you can give me a source on that I wold like see were you get the 400 number.
woops, that was 400 familys never mind
So fighting with another grop over control of land is genocide.
That would make more sence.
if you exterminate the population from that land, yes
Because the americans were sucessful
If you force them to leave like the trail of tears after you win wars against the your enemies for control of a territory then no that isn't extermination it's relocation.
that is part of the definition of genocide, forced relocation
No it isn't. If it is then show me where I can find it.
right the holocaust wasn't a genocide because the nazi's just relocated the jews to the ovens
not genocide my boys
look im not saying europeans need to be kicked back to europe and america needs to be handed back to natives, because thats both impracticle and doomed to fail, however europeans dont have genetic ties to north america we only have colonial ties here, sure we can stay, but its not as moral a fighting ground for ethnonationalism when your ethnicity isint native to a geography
Its not in the dictionary but its an often repeated definition from people on the left
its one reason im not solidly ethnonationalist when it comes to the united states, not till 5 thousand years of selective breeding turns me red due to the lower latitude than my genetic heritage evolved for.
DA JOOS
@Arch-Fiend American built America you have ties there because yo guys built America a country that wasn't their before the European settlers arrived.
The Anglos haven't been in England for 5 thousand years so by your logic they shouldn't be ethnonationalists.
Also why do you want Americans to become like the natives? Americans can build and maintain a civilization.
@Blackhawk342 I don't see forced relocation as genocide.
Well its just... Relocation really.
Unless its forced relocation to an environment that is extremely hostile then maybe theres an argument there?
The fact is that Americans were fighting with the natives over control of land and the Americans won so they forced the natives to move to land that they didn't want. If it was a genocide then the Americans would have just killed them all or otherwise wipeout whole or part of the native population not let them live on.
Generally I would agree, forcing someone to move to a different location even permenantly isnt genocide.
though as ginga said, if the land is somehow harmful to them there may be an arguement there
Cant force people to move to an active minefield afterall, that would be murder by proxy
True if you did move people to a minefield they would die and that would be genocide but I don't think that is a fare comparison to land that Americans didn't want.
we have ties to north america but not as many ties as we would have if we were natives thats all im saying. we have just as much ties to this land as most people who live here now do reguardless of their genetic lineage
I understand where your coming from. I disagree with you about Americans having as much ties to America as foreigners do but I gess we can agree to disagree on that.
ive argued that before for lols