Message from @Tohob

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2018-08-18 20:28:52 UTC  

in order for anarchy to exist, you must enforce it

2018-08-18 20:29:14 UTC  

Thats where the NAP comes into play

2018-08-18 20:29:15 UTC  

in order to enforce anything, you have to have laws and law enforcement

2018-08-18 20:30:02 UTC  

i guess they believe in some kind of community enforcement?

2018-08-18 20:31:15 UTC  

i wouldnt be so confused if they were more open to talk to people about it

2018-08-18 20:31:41 UTC  

they won't talk about it because the logic just doesn't pan out

2018-08-18 20:31:49 UTC  

in order for anarchy to exist, anarchy must not exist

2018-08-18 20:32:22 UTC  

anarchy just means against archy, it doesnt mean no rules

2018-08-18 20:32:53 UTC  

ancaps believe in private law and private enforcement of property rights

2018-08-18 20:33:13 UTC  

but i dunno what ancoms believe in

2018-08-18 20:33:15 UTC  

It doesnt mean against archy, it means without archy (or ruleRs in english)

2018-08-18 20:33:47 UTC  

Like i am.

2018-08-18 20:33:53 UTC  

whats the significant difference though?

2018-08-18 20:34:05 UTC  

it's the absence of government

2018-08-18 20:34:37 UTC  

Well, if you agree to play chess, you agree with your opponent on the rules. It doesnt require a ruler

2018-08-18 20:35:09 UTC  

sure it works nice in a two person scenario

2018-08-18 20:35:28 UTC  

now scale it to millions and let's see how anarchy works out

2018-08-18 20:35:36 UTC  

Im not saying it works, just describing what it means

2018-08-18 20:35:55 UTC  

you're right about the linguistics, but it seems like a nitpick

2018-08-18 20:36:08 UTC  

unless im missing a big point

2018-08-18 20:36:36 UTC  

if there is no government, laws cannot be properly enforced, because you can't count on people to enforce laws themselves

2018-08-18 20:36:49 UTC  

and all it takes is 1 person with a bigger stick to turn any anarchist system into a monarchy

2018-08-18 20:37:29 UTC  

@NativeInterface well, you dont need anyone to rule - to enforce anything - in order to agree on rules. Of course, you cant just not play society with someone who doesnt agree on the rules with you, soooo...

2018-08-18 20:37:34 UTC  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY5OYdGevAQ
if anyone has time or interest, he runs through the common criticisms to private law

2018-08-18 20:45:30 UTC  
2018-08-18 20:46:35 UTC  

@NativeInterface I subbed to that channel the other day. Great stuff to do the washing up to.

2018-08-18 20:47:11 UTC  

yeah i find most of them easy to listen to

2018-08-18 20:47:13 UTC  

We're going to need to teach Germany a lesson for the third time.

2018-08-18 20:48:33 UTC  

And France. They have joined them this time.

2018-08-18 20:49:39 UTC  

Basically the US, Eastern Europe, maybe Japan and SK, vs a good portion of the rest of the world.

2018-08-18 20:49:51 UTC  

FUCKING HEIKO MAAS AGAIN?

2018-08-18 20:50:12 UTC  

How that guy hasn't gotten assassinated yet is beyond me.

2018-08-18 20:50:49 UTC  

pls just nuke Germany twice, worked on Japan well

2018-08-18 20:51:12 UTC  

...anime tho

2018-08-18 20:51:18 UTC  

that's good tho

2018-08-18 20:51:34 UTC  

I shudder to think what this country will produce under the inflluence of nukes

2018-08-18 20:52:42 UTC  

Nukes are the most dangerous drug.

2018-08-18 20:53:39 UTC  

i found myself thinking really hard to answer your question and I ended up with very descriptive point by point manuals to everything existing and fictional

2018-08-18 20:53:58 UTC  

don't ask me why..it just feels right to me

2018-08-18 20:54:15 UTC  

yeah germans already have enough weird porn

2018-08-18 20:54:19 UTC  

let's not nuke them