Message from @Atkins
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they are like making fun of the red scare, like "oh look how silly they were back in the day, dehumanizing the enemy"
yeah but they were unironically right to do so so it's just some nice aesthetic
I mean the red scare was a thing, and well fallout has always been a commentary on society.
Just satirizing it. I see not complaints bout it.
There was that dlc where you fight the chinese I recall
In a simulation
ya, but the thing they're satirizing I unironically believe in soooo, fuckin
DEATH IS A PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE TO COMMUNISM
the red scare was contemporary with the time period that the bombs drop. it was literally active during that period so having propaganda for that show up in the game as relics no one has taken down yet (because who would waste the time in a dystopia) isint hard to beleive
kinda surprised they havent had any before this point
And well, seems like the reds are active again. Ghosts of a dead order.
it's interesting how people unironically adopt the satire
McCarthy literally did nothing wrong except stop
i know it's historically accurate, but the designers obviously wanted to emphasize it and exaggerate it with liberty prime and so on
witch hunts are dangerous for a societys cohession, espcially one built on the idea of individualist principles. an ideology may run contrary to those principles however if the society itself betrays those principles to fight that which may destroy those principles they themselves end at being the destroyers of what they stood to protect
Here's the thing about witch hunts, witches aren't real. Communists are.
metaphors are a thing
but the women who died were
Problem is, apply that to how the left finds nazis
Take something insignificant.
And then, boom hes a nazi
Guy believes in traditional marriage. Nazi
@GingaBomber find me Nazi subversion in media, culture and economy, I'll agree with you
Guy believes in no sex before marraige. Nazi
Im not saying nazis exist.
Im saying that one that believes it enough will make up reasons it does exist.
I mean, they do. Did, anyways, and still do in the form of LARPing faggots
if you cant defeate communists without sacraficing everything that seporates you from the worst aspects of them then all you really are is someone with a different oppinion of economics
Heres the issue.
Alot of lefties are okay with authoritarianism you know why?
Either they are too stupid to know that it will be used against them
Or that they are smart enough to know that their opponent is too honourable to use it against them
Theres a divide between the we must stay true, or the we need to use their weapons against them
they dont believe force or violence is authoritarianism or something
propyne the issue is that when your hunting an ideology, its just like your opinion man. your not rightious, your just to ignorent to be wrong
@Arch-Fiend I'm hardly calling for a secret police or thought crime. But a culture utterly opposed to communism and strict scrutiny of those professing to be such or parroting their ideas when attempting to enter positions of power is a good start. Not even done by the government (well, by necessity when it's political positions, you get the point)
mccarthy was a thought policeman
there is probably a metaphor here somewhere about wolves and sheep trying to decide what to have for dinner
secret police are only nessicary when you need them, in reality the gestapo were only secret police in the ghetto, when they were outside the ghetto they didint need to be secret, anyone who was a citizine of germany would tell them anything they wanted to know because the people were entirely convenced of what they were trying to do being for the good of the people. the beginings of that were already in place with the red scare
there just wernt any ghettos full of communists that the fbi needed to be culvert about, they had the public feeding them enough information backstabing eachother that they didint really need to hide what they were doing when they showed up at your door