Well if you deny it's a movmeent, you're definitely in an ideological bubble.

IS the abscence of color a color or no color?

>Atheism is a 100% faith-based position
Atheism is lack of faith BY DEFINITION

And just because hes saying its a movement does not mean its inherently bad

Atheism preaches coming to conclusions through logic and knowledge

>you're definitely in an ideological bubble.
there is NO ideology mate

Not archaic scriptures or doctrine

But theres a lib prop movement to exploit it and turn it into one.

atheism doesn't even deal with conclusions, logic and knowledge, it's simply the lack of faith

"Atheism is lack of faith BY DEFINITION" -- nobody accepts this assertion except t hose indoctrinated by the cult, sorry. Atheism is 100% faith-based, always has been always will be. The bizarre cult of New Atheism/Internet Atheism has worked har to get the rest f us to accept that "lack of belief" definition, along with their fake definition that "faith=belief without evidence.": Both are cultish lies and good reason for religious people like myself to simply avoid them.

Fortunately they're not all like that at all.

like, most christians are atheists in regards to buddhism, and do not believe in Buddha

you sound completely brainwashed

Lack of faith in any higher power

Projection.

And you are being confrontational.

Take a chill pill.

@Crow That's not true, sorry.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism

No as in, that's literally what atheism means

turn off that pesky boulder

Enh. We don't always agree on things. [shrug] It's still true: ideological atheists like Sargon, who hate on and abuse religious people, are going to be poison for UKIP and its voters unelss Sargon changes his tune that's all.

> The bizarre cult of New Atheism/Internet Atheism
I told you above, those are just lefty propaganda, most are SJWs trying to position their flavor of "atheism" as a religion

But atheism's actual definition is a lack of belief in a higher power

what's next, you're gonna say the V-sign means two genders because someone on the internet said so?

no gods, no higher powers

>ideological atheists
fucking LEL

Its just another label adopted and turned into a movement.

THe Merriam-Webster doesn't support what you're saying, sorry, and neither do most dictionaries. Some will accept the "lack of belief" claim, but it's just a claim, and it falls apart quickly once you analyze it, which is why most serious sources, like the STanford Encyclopedia of Phiosophy, explicitly reject it (as I do).

There is a atheist movement whether or not you like it.

Its just the guise it takes the form of for now

And I bet once the hype is down it will find another host.

In any case, those of us who do not accept these claims that atheism is just "lack of belief" or "lack of faith" -- and we have no reason to accept thesee ideological assesrtions--have every right to be mistrustful of people who talk like that. That's all. If he wants UKIP support, it's gonna be an issue for him. Just a fact.

Thats what feminists did by coopting LGBT by creating LGBTQ+

ANd they did the same with atheism by making it a movement and calling it Atheism+

see, this is why the religious people lose me. They go against atheism like it's another religion and alienate everyone that could agree with them

@GingaBomber My read onit, having watched it since it started, is that y ou're right it was always a SocJus movement, at least once the Horsemen and the Internet movement moved in.

@.B Then stay against us. [shrug]

The problem is, that identifying it as a movement does not connotate a negative definition

>us
you

That you are against us, call us stupid, etc. is just reason for us to dislike you. That's ntohing personal, but just you talking that way about us is alienating and doesn't exactly make friends.

It was probably just an off color remark