Message from @MaxKolbe

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2018-09-10 19:06:20 UTC  

Atheism is lack of faith. There is no movement, all the movements you see are lefty propaganda

2018-09-10 19:06:21 UTC  

The AA sort

2018-09-10 19:06:33 UTC  

Atheism is a 100% faith-based position, sorry.

2018-09-10 19:06:45 UTC  

Is there really any argument?

2018-09-10 19:06:49 UTC  

And those of us who figure that out and reject it come to different conclusions about the world and about people. IT's the nature of things.

2018-09-10 19:06:53 UTC  

Its like the discussion on black being a color

2018-09-10 19:07:09 UTC  

Well if you deny it's a movmeent, you're definitely in an ideological bubble.

2018-09-10 19:07:11 UTC  

IS the abscence of color a color or no color?

2018-09-10 19:07:25 UTC  

>Atheism is a 100% faith-based position
Atheism is lack of faith BY DEFINITION

2018-09-10 19:07:30 UTC  

And just because hes saying its a movement does not mean its inherently bad

2018-09-10 19:07:46 UTC  

Atheism preaches coming to conclusions through logic and knowledge

2018-09-10 19:07:51 UTC  

>you're definitely in an ideological bubble.
there is NO ideology mate

2018-09-10 19:07:53 UTC  

Not archaic scriptures or doctrine

2018-09-10 19:08:11 UTC  

But theres a lib prop movement to exploit it and turn it into one.

2018-09-10 19:08:24 UTC  

atheism doesn't even deal with conclusions, logic and knowledge, it's simply the lack of faith

2018-09-10 19:08:34 UTC  

"Atheism is lack of faith BY DEFINITION" -- nobody accepts this assertion except t hose indoctrinated by the cult, sorry. Atheism is 100% faith-based, always has been always will be. The bizarre cult of New Atheism/Internet Atheism has worked har to get the rest f us to accept that "lack of belief" definition, along with their fake definition that "faith=belief without evidence.": Both are cultish lies and good reason for religious people like myself to simply avoid them.

2018-09-10 19:08:39 UTC  

Fortunately they're not all like that at all.

2018-09-10 19:08:58 UTC  

like, most christians are atheists in regards to buddhism, and do not believe in Buddha

2018-09-10 19:09:03 UTC  

you sound completely brainwashed

2018-09-10 19:09:04 UTC  

Lack of faith in any higher power

2018-09-10 19:09:11 UTC  

Projection.

2018-09-10 19:09:14 UTC  

And you are being confrontational.

2018-09-10 19:09:18 UTC  

Take a chill pill.

2018-09-10 19:09:19 UTC  

@Crow That's not true, sorry.

2018-09-10 19:09:57 UTC  

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism

No as in, that's literally what atheism means

2018-09-10 19:09:58 UTC  

turn off that pesky boulder

2018-09-10 19:10:06 UTC  

Enh. We don't always agree on things. [shrug] It's still true: ideological atheists like Sargon, who hate on and abuse religious people, are going to be poison for UKIP and its voters unelss Sargon changes his tune that's all.

2018-09-10 19:10:11 UTC  

> The bizarre cult of New Atheism/Internet Atheism
I told you above, those are just lefty propaganda, most are SJWs trying to position their flavor of "atheism" as a religion

2018-09-10 19:10:19 UTC  

But atheism's actual definition is a lack of belief in a higher power

2018-09-10 19:10:24 UTC  

what's next, you're gonna say the V-sign means two genders because someone on the internet said so?

2018-09-10 19:10:25 UTC  

no gods, no higher powers

2018-09-10 19:10:44 UTC  

>ideological atheists
fucking LEL

2018-09-10 19:10:51 UTC  

Its just another label adopted and turned into a movement.

2018-09-10 19:11:08 UTC  

THe Merriam-Webster doesn't support what you're saying, sorry, and neither do most dictionaries. Some will accept the "lack of belief" claim, but it's just a claim, and it falls apart quickly once you analyze it, which is why most serious sources, like the STanford Encyclopedia of Phiosophy, explicitly reject it (as I do).

2018-09-10 19:11:18 UTC  

There is a atheist movement whether or not you like it.

2018-09-10 19:11:31 UTC  

Its just the guise it takes the form of for now

2018-09-10 19:11:41 UTC  

And I bet once the hype is down it will find another host.

2018-09-10 19:11:58 UTC  

In any case, those of us who do not accept these claims that atheism is just "lack of belief" or "lack of faith" -- and we have no reason to accept thesee ideological assesrtions--have every right to be mistrustful of people who talk like that. That's all. If he wants UKIP support, it's gonna be an issue for him. Just a fact.

2018-09-10 19:12:12 UTC  

Thats what feminists did by coopting LGBT by creating LGBTQ+

2018-09-10 19:12:29 UTC  

ANd they did the same with atheism by making it a movement and calling it Atheism+

2018-09-10 19:12:32 UTC  

see, this is why the religious people lose me. They go against atheism like it's another religion and alienate everyone that could agree with them