Message from @Crow

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2018-09-13 05:38:00 UTC  

Three prisoners in the gulag get to talking about why they are there.
"I am here because I always got to work five minutes late, and they charged me with sabotage," says the first.
"I am here because I kept getting to work five minutes early, and they charged me with spying," says the second.
"I am here because I got to work on time every day," says the third, "and they charged me with owning a western watch."

2018-09-13 13:00:59 UTC  

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2018-09-13 13:42:46 UTC  

Arch neme was good

2018-09-13 13:42:49 UTC  

Stolen

2018-09-13 13:52:44 UTC  

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2018-09-13 13:54:35 UTC  

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2018-09-13 14:05:46 UTC  

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2018-09-13 14:23:48 UTC  

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2018-09-13 15:39:27 UTC  

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2018-09-13 15:39:45 UTC  

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2018-09-13 15:40:11 UTC  

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2018-09-13 15:40:25 UTC  

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2018-09-13 16:09:49 UTC  

sledding is not actually unusual behavure for crows, they are one of the most intelegent species of animal on earth

2018-09-13 16:23:00 UTC  

top 10 haunting photos taken moments before disaster

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2018-09-13 16:45:38 UTC  

what's really cool about birds is that they split from mammals over 300 million years ago, before the evolution of the prefrontal cortex that mammals have. In mammals that's the part used for things like personality, problem-solving, and self-awareness itself

2018-09-13 16:48:05 UTC  

so when a smart bird (e.g. many corvids) solves a problem, it's using brain architecture that's completely alien to ours

2018-09-13 16:52:46 UTC  

given that they are intelligent, it'd be interesting to know what exactly the differences are beyond the surface-level ones, if their neural architecture for problem-solving is more optimized than ours for example, but of course neuroscience isn't near that point yet

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2018-09-13 16:54:52 UTC  

then again squirrels are pretty clever and good at problem-solving too and they're also rather small, so it could be just a matter of niche-ing into dumping energy into the brain and problem-solving

2018-09-13 17:00:21 UTC  

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2018-09-13 17:00:53 UTC  

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2018-09-13 17:02:59 UTC  

Crows are cool.

2018-09-13 17:19:29 UTC  

they are my favorate birb

2018-09-13 17:20:07 UTC  

well corvids in general

2018-09-13 17:34:08 UTC  

I think if it was more of an architectural level we would see more smart birds. There are alot of different mammals with intelligence comparable to 3 year olds. As far as I'm awear it is only the Corvid family that stand out.

2018-09-13 17:35:58 UTC  

being smart requires a lot of energy, which is why most animals aren't, especially not herbivores who can neither afford nor need that extra problem-solving

2018-09-13 17:36:23 UTC  

but all mammals have the same basic architecture, in that they *have* a preforntal cortex

2018-09-13 17:36:38 UTC  

birds don't, yet some CAN do high level stuff

2018-09-13 17:37:17 UTC  

there is another explanation: our understanding of brains has a potential flaw

2018-09-13 17:37:32 UTC  

Some sea slugs can do some pretty advanced stuff for sea slugs.

2018-09-13 17:40:30 UTC  

Brains the more complex they are require more energy to run

2018-09-13 17:41:37 UTC  

I do know that the behaviour you see in crows is learned from watching others where as a slug will teach it's self. I think it is more related to evolution of the specific species than architecture.

2018-09-13 17:42:18 UTC  

you can do some tests though, a lobotomy for example damages/destroys the prefrontal cortex, in rats as well as humans

2018-09-13 17:44:38 UTC  

while there's obviously more to it (prefrontal cortex sending back and forth with older parts of the brain while e.g. handling memories) the basic gist of it is that if you remove prefrontal cortex, you get a "drooling zombie" incapable of overruling baser instincts, incapable of advanced problem-solving, etc.

2018-09-13 17:44:56 UTC  

architecture is evolved

2018-09-13 17:45:49 UTC  

and birds and mammals are groups of species so far apart entire regions of the brain have had the time to evolve

2018-09-13 17:46:25 UTC  

So they aren't still working on the reptile brain?

2018-09-13 17:47:20 UTC  

so their not.

2018-09-13 17:47:23 UTC  

the reptile brain doesn't have a prefrontal cortex, that part does not exist

2018-09-13 17:47:31 UTC  

Yeah I knew that. But I didn't know birds had evolved past that.

2018-09-13 17:48:09 UTC  

and we are entirely sure the prefrontal cortex does not have sub components that we might find replicated in other advance problem solving species?