Message from @da britian
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You'll get promoted if you're popular already.
Not popular already? Go away. We can't do anything with you.
GO AWAYYYYY!! >A<
What do we gotta do? HELP?
FUCK YOU!
"Just... Just get popular out there somehow! It's the big wide internet! Surely you can find some way to get attention! Not our problem!!"
"It's easier than ever! And other buzz-sentences!"
I blame Wertham for a chunk of screwing American comics in the long run, he cut down the industry diversity of comic companies & genres to a few. I don't blame all of this on him, the American industry shot itself in the foot again, once in the nineties & now it just kinda hubbles. Though Archie comics is doing OK.
What I just describe just now is not his fault.
Well it kinda is.
If you could buy manga at the grocery store, you can be sure they'd be doing even better.
I said a chunk not all of that, plus I type slow
ehh
I think the art style + reading right to left would prevent Manga from ever going 100% mainstream
On the side, I should note Marvel teamed up with Archie comics to do some Digest drops for some of their comics, like Spider-Man & The avengers.
On the manga reading style, the main hurdle to that in the west seems to be that old people don't like it.
So it is going to have to take time that to be more widely accepted.
Honestly I am not sure that these numbers are a sign of manga doing "good" and might be just how bad american comics are doing
Manga & anime has been doing the best it ever has in the west. I am sitting next to manga that I never thought I would see here in the west in English for decades coming to me in a few years. As long a there is not another bust that causes the western market to wipe itself out agian, then it should be fine.
But at it's current point, it is pretty hard to cause a proper bust, the licensers & the licensors aren't blind speculators like the boom before the last bust, plus there is a lot of companies who are distributing this stuff.
```Yeah but what do they do? License rights, import and translate? Legit never heard of them```
Exactly that. License, Translate, Import. That's their Business Model...
```Manga & anime has been doing the best it ever has in the west```
Because Hollywood let it happen, with all that alienating SJW shit, that pisses people off.
What do people do usually? They look for other means of Entertainment. If it isn't from the US; they look at Korea and Japan. Both have good stuff...
And you absolutely should watch Miss Devil.
And yes, I've heard of Viz Media a couple of times 😉
```Honestly I am not sure that these numbers are a sign of manga doing "good" and might be just how bad american comics are doing```
Its showing that Comics are doing bad and people are fed up with the Political shit in their Entertainment, so they look for alternative "Fixes". And Manga or Manwha are a good alternative. People are forced to do that because of all the Feminism infested garbage.
And normal People don't complain, they are not on twitter. They just stup buying the shit and look at alternatives and buy them. They want to be entertained without Political shit, that's what the SJW/Feminist types don't understand. That their Tactics do not work, that most people don't agree with them...
It is kinda funny, I got into anime because I like superhero-esque stuff & it has it in droves. (though independent of that at the time, Disney was screwing over its good animation projects). But when it comes to manga, It is like 75% yuri manga that I am reading with some Go Nagai manga sprinkled in.
Heck, for all the progressivism the Hollywood types tote, they'd burst into blames if they tried adapting Something like Sakura Trick... or GASP! An animated project whit a character female who romantically gets together with another female character & they kiss, which I think they did with adventure time recently. So late 2010s children's cartoons have managed to caught up to mid 1990s Japanese (semi-literal this time) children's cartoons like Sailor moon.
Dafuq is that
@da britian i think on commentary of old (or socially conservative) people vs manga, i think the free nature of manga kinda keeps it away from the west, is in stark contrast with what can be published in modern west. I'd argue if the west really fucking sucks in any one way so far as pop culture we are scared of controversial fiction. take 'emergence' as a fairly light example, yes we could write novels like this, we allow all sorts of degeneracy in literature sure, but if you draw pictures to go with it then there is some presumption your a twisted fucked up person. We have a issue with freedom of thought and expression in any visual depiction of fiction, it spooks the shit out of generations who grew up viewing cartoons as something for kids, even if same people probably read some violent comic books growing up.
Your country in particular seems to typify this (if you are actually british), good example was BBC vs Girls und Panzers. Probably the most innocent of all the WWII themed all-female cast shows and BBC railed on the guy.
While I was only growing up during the time and therefore missed the political aspects (I'm also not American so most of my cartoons were imported and translated a few years after), something must have happened to Western (kids, animated) media, because things USED to be a lot more open and... "Inclusive" in the late 80's early 90's
You say a lesbian kiss would be scandalous, but in the 90's we had Ren & Stimpy
Cow & chicken had a "carpet munching biking gang", etc.
So sometime, after Ren & Stimpy, something happened to make it not okay to imply your two main characters are buttfucking
i remember dare
that campaign fell flat on its face after being used for 15+ years