Message from @Scribblehatch

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2018-09-28 09:59:38 UTC  

Viz Media is Manga (Japanese comics)

2018-09-28 10:02:08 UTC  

Yeah but what do they do? License rights, import and translate? Legit never heard of them

2018-09-28 10:02:32 UTC  

VIZ Media LLC is an American manga and anime distribution and entertainment company headquartered in San Francisco, California. It was founded in 1986 as VIZ LLC.

2018-09-28 10:03:11 UTC  

In 2005, VIZ LLC and ShoPro Entertainment merged to form the current VIZ Media LLC, which is jointly owned by Japanese publishers Shueisha, Shogakukan and Shogakukan-Shueisha Productions (ShoPro).[3] As of 2017, Viz Media is the largest publisher of graphic novels and comic books in the United States, with a 23% share of the market.[4]

2018-09-28 10:06:39 UTC  

Based in Los Angeles, Viz Productions coordinates the licenses of Japanese material (manga, books and film) to American film companies. Their goal is to involve the Japanese creators in the production and facilitate communication between all parties in the US and Japan. VIZ Productions' first film is the live action adaptation of All You Need is Kill, Edge of Tomorrow, starring Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt. Their second is the American live-action adaptation to the manga, Death Note, starring Nat Wolff and Willem Dafoe. Their third will be Detective Pikachu, starring Justice Smith and Ryan Reynolds.

2018-09-28 10:06:40 UTC  

If I had a manga company operating in the West I'd mirror all pages so you read from left to right, *just* to trigger and confuse people

2018-09-28 10:08:50 UTC  

Oh hey, I like Edge of Tomorrow. Emily Blunt is great. While far from a masterpiece and ultimately unremarkable, as a "consume & forget" simple action movie I prefer it over a lot of contemporary action films.

2018-09-28 10:13:18 UTC  

As far as rough western adaptations of Japanese stuff goes, it did pretty well... critically.

2018-09-28 10:14:06 UTC  

Admittedly the poor marketing did not do that movie favors.

2018-09-28 10:15:31 UTC  

It is one thing to make some tweaks to the title, it is another to throw out the title of your movie **2 times.**

2018-09-28 10:18:24 UTC  

It's a shame because america loses in this scenario.

2018-09-28 10:18:47 UTC  

Any comics coming OUT OF america has been invaded by SJWs.

2018-09-28 10:18:56 UTC  

And even before the invasion, it wasn't doing so well.

2018-09-28 10:19:20 UTC  

My old dreams died due to this shit. I know all about it.

2018-09-28 10:19:33 UTC  

It's so depressing how sluggish that industry is.

2018-09-28 10:23:42 UTC  

There is no training, no apprenticeship. No building yourself up from the bottom.

2018-09-28 10:23:51 UTC  

You'll get promoted if you're popular already.

2018-09-28 10:24:05 UTC  

Not popular already? Go away. We can't do anything with you.

2018-09-28 10:24:12 UTC  

GO AWAYYYYY!! >A<

2018-09-28 10:24:17 UTC  

What do we gotta do? HELP?

2018-09-28 10:24:19 UTC  

FUCK YOU!

2018-09-28 10:24:51 UTC  

"Just... Just get popular out there somehow! It's the big wide internet! Surely you can find some way to get attention! Not our problem!!"

2018-09-28 10:24:59 UTC  

"It's easier than ever! And other buzz-sentences!"

2018-09-28 10:26:18 UTC  

I blame Wertham for a chunk of screwing American comics in the long run, he cut down the industry diversity of comic companies & genres to a few. I don't blame all of this on him, the American industry shot itself in the foot again, once in the nineties & now it just kinda hubbles. Though Archie comics is doing OK.

2018-09-28 10:27:03 UTC  

What I just describe just now is not his fault.

2018-09-28 10:27:13 UTC  

Well it kinda is.

2018-09-28 10:27:25 UTC  

If you could buy manga at the grocery store, you can be sure they'd be doing even better.

2018-09-28 10:27:35 UTC  

I said a chunk not all of that, plus I type slow

2018-09-28 10:28:17 UTC  

ehh

2018-09-28 10:28:33 UTC  

I think the art style + reading right to left would prevent Manga from ever going 100% mainstream

2018-09-28 10:29:07 UTC  

On the side, I should note Marvel teamed up with Archie comics to do some Digest drops for some of their comics, like Spider-Man & The avengers.

2018-09-28 10:30:15 UTC  

On the manga reading style, the main hurdle to that in the west seems to be that old people don't like it.

2018-09-28 10:31:17 UTC  

So it is going to have to take time that to be more widely accepted.

2018-09-28 10:31:56 UTC  

Honestly I am not sure that these numbers are a sign of manga doing "good" and might be just how bad american comics are doing

2018-09-28 10:36:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/495181884603629588/brexitjoke.PNG

2018-09-28 10:36:06 UTC  

Manga & anime has been doing the best it ever has in the west. I am sitting next to manga that I never thought I would see here in the west in English for decades coming to me in a few years. As long a there is not another bust that causes the western market to wipe itself out agian, then it should be fine.

2018-09-28 10:43:35 UTC  

But at it's current point, it is pretty hard to cause a proper bust, the licensers & the licensors aren't blind speculators like the boom before the last bust, plus there is a lot of companies who are distributing this stuff.

2018-09-28 11:11:08 UTC  

```Yeah but what do they do? License rights, import and translate? Legit never heard of them```
Exactly that. License, Translate, Import. That's their Business Model...

2018-09-28 11:12:27 UTC  

```Manga & anime has been doing the best it ever has in the west```
Because Hollywood let it happen, with all that alienating SJW shit, that pisses people off.
What do people do usually? They look for other means of Entertainment. If it isn't from the US; they look at Korea and Japan. Both have good stuff...

And you absolutely should watch Miss Devil.

2018-09-28 11:13:07 UTC  

And yes, I've heard of Viz Media a couple of times 😉

2018-09-28 11:15:38 UTC  

```Honestly I am not sure that these numbers are a sign of manga doing "good" and might be just how bad american comics are doing```
Its showing that Comics are doing bad and people are fed up with the Political shit in their Entertainment, so they look for alternative "Fixes". And Manga or Manwha are a good alternative. People are forced to do that because of all the Feminism infested garbage.

And normal People don't complain, they are not on twitter. They just stup buying the shit and look at alternatives and buy them. They want to be entertained without Political shit, that's what the SJW/Feminist types don't understand. That their Tactics do not work, that most people don't agree with them...